Oh man, was that the time with the horde of orcs?

To my eyes this reads as intentionally condescending and somewhat insulting. Sorry, but that's how it reads to me.

Huh. Okay.

I guess I don't see that, but if others do, I'll take that into account.

I really think there's a lot of condescension and insult on all sides of the argument, so I'm not sure why I'm being singled out. I especially think that the preservationist (thank you Wolfram) argument is at least as dismissive of our side, but yes, adding dismissiveness doesn't help.

Still, thank you. I will try to tone it down even more.

I really think there's a lot of condescension and insult on all sides of the argument, so I'm not sure why I'm being singled out.

I guess it is your turn. We've all been singled out in the past. I know you, and you're a close friend, and I know you don't intend to be fanning the flames. That's why I felt the need to call you on it.

I also firmly believe that even if I perceive that my opposition is using tactics that I consider inappropriate, that mean I should use those tactics.

I still don't understand the desire to not have new threads or all the discussion (that is mostly kind of mean and spends a lot of time trying to make the "other guy" the bad guy), but then I have only been here 5 years or so and still feel like a total newbie.

Fair enough.

I'm not sure why I'm being singled out.

Pope's in town. You made inappropriate jokes. We'll get Joe and Drew later. *smooch*

Hey, the pope was asking for it, wearing those bright red FMP's and that half see through robe.

Ratzinger's a sexy beast.

Okay, I had to go away for a meeting.

I did want to point out that I do agree with Sean here:

But I would like to take this opportunity to point out that the anti-proliferationistas are just as vehement in their stance, yet it is the new thread proposers who are asked to not be so vehement in their desire for a new thread.

I tend to agree with Wolfram in that, while I am not anti-proliferation, I really don’t want anyone who wants to create a thread to be able to do. This position often seems lost in this discussion and often the response to a request for a new thread is greeted with something like msbelle’s comment in bureaucracy:

oh hell. SERIOUSLY!!! just open a thread for every single thing anyone wants, just do it and stop all the talk, it is so tiresome already.

All this to say that, while I think that Sean has perhaps been too vehement is his position, I understand why he feels on the defensive.

Pope's in town. You made inappropriate jokes. We'll get Joe and Drew later. *smooch*

I'm kicking puppies and eating babies right now, AIFG!