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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

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Wolfram - Apr 18, 2008 8:35:30 am PDT #8494 of 10289
Visilurking

anti-proliferationistas

I think we need a new word. Like preservationists.


msbelle - Apr 18, 2008 8:35:52 am PDT #8495 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

NoiseDesign - Apr 18, 2008 8:35:59 am PDT #8496 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

Sean, since you asked, here's a few examples and my reactions to them:

You don't the the fragmentation has already happened? Really? You don't see how we've already fragmented into our little groups, with (in some cases) almost no contact between said groups?

You honestly believe if we only had just the one Natter thread, we'd all just talk to each other?

The fragmentation has already happened. Pretending it hasn't does nothing to prevent it.

To my eyes this reads as intentionally condescending and somewhat insulting. Sorry, but that's how it reads to me.

The argument that fragmentation will destroy our community because it has destroyed so many other communities also holds no water at all, because it is highly selective, and completely ignores the other posting boards that allow individual user thread creation and are doing just fine, thank you.

The argument may hold no water for you, but it clearly holds water for our opposition. It's very dismissive of their position. Being dismissive has a very different tone than disagreeing.

...

Those are not the total, they are examples. You aren't outright calling people asshats, but I'm reading your tone, and I may be wrong on this, as very combative and intentionally inflammatory. Typically that tone does not help a discussion.


Ailleann - Apr 18, 2008 8:38:30 am PDT #8497 of 10289
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I still maintain that the fracturing already happened. There are already groups within groups here, and some of those groups never ever speak to each other. That has nothing at all to do with thread creation.

I think there's a certain amount of "fracturing" that will exist on any board that has more than one place to talk. Some people will be more attracted to certain subjects than others, and some will frequent areas that others do not. It's like a giant Venn diagram, with various states of overlap.

My opinion on the anti-proliferation stance (and I don't attempt to speak for everyone, and I personally am not die-hard for or against, I prefer to decide on a thread-by-thread basis) is that it involves questioning whether a trend toward thread creation will take the community in a direction which is not in keeping with the ideas that the folks who originally created the community had for its... vision and mission statement, if you will.

I think the reason that the thread discussion keeps coming up is that we still don't have an answer on what thread creation will do, because MM still hasn't finished that damn time machine yet.


Sean K - Apr 18, 2008 8:38:38 am PDT #8498 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think that niche threads don't help that, though, as some of the groupings I see look to my eyes to come from the subcommunities formed in particular threads. It fosters insularity.

Okay, I can kind of see your point, but... then again, not really.

I don't honestly see how the subcommunities were caused by the threads.

But I know that you honestly do.

We're each seeing things the other is not seeing.


Dana - Apr 18, 2008 8:38:44 am PDT #8499 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Am I insane, or are posts duplicating themselves?


Steph L. - Apr 18, 2008 8:39:52 am PDT #8500 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Am I insane, or are posts duplicating themselves?

At least 2 have -- msbelle and someone else.


Amy - Apr 18, 2008 8:40:58 am PDT #8501 of 10289
Because books.

Am I insane, or are posts duplicating themselves?

They are.


Dana - Apr 18, 2008 8:41:49 am PDT #8502 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Ha. Because what we need are *more* posts. (But at least I'm not insane.)


Miracleman - Apr 18, 2008 8:41:50 am PDT #8503 of 10289
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Damn, see what happens if you accidentally post before you're done typing? My bullshit gots ran over.

I had an AWESOME story in there about this one time I was GMing...