Oh my god. What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.

Wash ,'Bushwhacked'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Sean K - Apr 18, 2008 9:30:29 am PDT #8513 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Pope's in town. You made inappropriate jokes. We'll get Joe and Drew later. *smooch*

I'm kicking puppies and eating babies right now, AIFG!


lisah - Apr 18, 2008 9:36:55 am PDT #8514 of 10289
Punishingly Intricate

while I am not anti-proliferation, I really don’t want anyone who wants to create a thread to be able to do. This position often seems lost in this discussion and often the response to a request for a new thread is greeted with something like msbelle’s comment in bureaucracy

Yeah this is also me.


Fred Pete - Apr 18, 2008 9:39:35 am PDT #8515 of 10289
Ann, that's a ferret.

Gaming is a subject Sean clearly cares about a great deal. That caring comes out in what he's saying. Ditto MM, but then if he didn't care, he wouldn't have proposed the new thread.

And I think everyone on both sides of this discussion cares about the board and wants what's best for it. There's honest disagreement about what that best is. It's also pretty clear that, at some level, people recognize that -- or maybe it's just board culture. But I'm not seeing any namecalling or other signs of flaming.


Miracleman - Apr 18, 2008 9:40:37 am PDT #8516 of 10289
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

But I'm not seeing any namecalling or other signs of flaming.

I, uh...I did say that Certain Peoples' mothers dressed them funny.

But, you know...THEY DO! So NYAH!!


-t - Apr 18, 2008 9:44:44 am PDT #8517 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I do not like the proposed "Try it in OM first" idea because I have addressed a certain weird tendency towards reticence in the gamers around here (and, probably, around the world) when it comes to discussing their hobbies in a place not designated for it.

But we would explicitly be designating Other Media as a place to discuss gaming, at least for the duration of the experiment. Would that not help with the reticence?


Miracleman - Apr 18, 2008 9:47:39 am PDT #8518 of 10289
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

But we would explicitly be designating Other Media as a place to discuss gaming, at least for the duration of the experiment. Would that not help with the reticence?

*shrug* Maybe. It was mentioned that gaming was included in the "charter" for OM and I didn't see any gaming talk take off there, so...I tend to doubt it.

But, I must admit, I proposed the thread, I want the thread so I may be biased.


msbelle - Apr 18, 2008 10:02:41 am PDT #8519 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Aw. Well it was in reaction to the Dollhouse thread talk, not this, but point taken.

I am, however, sick of the talk, which means I should just stay out of these threads. So many people attacked and like victims and we do it every quarter or so. My problem, I get it.


Volans - Apr 18, 2008 10:07:09 am PDT #8520 of 10289
move out and draw fire

But we would explicitly be designating Other Media as a place to discuss gaming, at least for the duration of the experiment. Would that not help with the reticence?

It might. The thing is, sometimes there are capes in gaming.

Seriously, here are my thoughts about 30 Days of Gaming in OM:

PRO:
- I would love a place to talk about gaming here (RPGs, console, computer, board, the whole shebang)

- There are three Jossverse RPGs I know of, and a couple computer games, so it seems to fall under the board's umbrella

- Games are Other Media, and while that is sort of a catch-all thread, it doesn't seem like there's so much action in it as to make the gaming posts hard to pick out

CON:
- I have a hard time digging posts I'm interested in out of busy threads (I stopped reading Natter and Boxed Set for this reason). Especially when there's a risk of being spoiled (in the case of games, you can be spoiled for computer games...at least you could back when they had stories), I don't like taking that risk.

- The multitude of possible topics that could fall under "gaming" is so vast it might well take over OM (although this isn't a CON so much as an end-state for the test)

- "Other Media" is liberally named, but was originally a thread specifically for comics and graphic novels. I think if we compare the interest base (in terms of Buffistas and in terms of products to discuss) for graphic media to the base for games, we'd see close to parity.

I get what MM says about gamers still being in the closet. I was joking with someone today that I'd rather tell people I "impress" new members of the Fundamentalist LDS than that I game. But I honestly don't have an issue with flying my geek flag here, whichever thread I end up posting in.


megan walker - Apr 18, 2008 10:10:46 am PDT #8521 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Aw. Well it was in reaction to the Dollhouse thread talk, not this, but point taken.

Sorry to call it out so explicitly, but it seemed to summarize the vibe that I got from a number of the reactions to the proposal.

So many people attacked and like victims and we do it every quarter or so. My problem, I get it.

Well, I think it is a problem for all of us, but I don't see how the underlying situation can really be resolved since some people want new threads and some people don't.


msbelle - Apr 18, 2008 10:12:23 am PDT #8522 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

the majority of us can ignore the posts when they start?