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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Wolfram - May 19, 2003 2:55:06 pm PDT #1404 of 10289
Visilurking

Thanks Dana. I thought the four day period was deliberately set to give less frequent posters an opportunity to chime in. I was totally unaware that a proposal could move forth sooner. Sorry Betsy, and Cindy.

I'll go stick my head back up my ass.


Noumenon - May 19, 2003 2:56:37 pm PDT #1405 of 10289
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

needs the voting results page

Four days was the requirement, and the rationale was just such a proposal as this, that starts on Friday afternoon at 2:00 and runs over the weekend when fewer people are here. We should give the proposal and anyone who might step up to discuss it their full day in court.


Dana - May 19, 2003 2:58:27 pm PDT #1406 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's been over three days. I don't think we're tromping on anyone's rights. Because the voting is also open for three days, and if someone dislikes the proposal and somehow didn't get a chance to weigh in, he/she can vote "no".

Edit: x-post.


Cindy - May 19, 2003 3:02:22 pm PDT #1407 of 10289
Nobody

Sorry Betsy, and Cindy.

Please don't apologize, Wolfram. I haven't been paying any attention to how long it's been going on. If it started on Friday, it should go 'til tomorrow.


brenda m - May 19, 2003 3:08:13 pm PDT #1408 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Four days discussion maximum. I believe we can move it to the voting stage earlier if no one has anything new to add.

Eh, much as I'd like to move on with this, I don't agree.

There's nothing that says we have to continue discussing this, or that Betsy can't post her final version of the proposal whenever she wants. But I don't think we should go to voting until the end of the fourth day.


Betsy HP - May 19, 2003 3:10:49 pm PDT #1409 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

I did ask

(Have we discussed this long enough that asking for a vote is proper?)

If it wasn't proper, then discussion is still open.


Lyra Jane - May 19, 2003 3:17:45 pm PDT #1410 of 10289
Up with the sun

I believe we can move it to the voting stage earlier if no one has anything new to add.

I thought we specifically said we couldn't do this, on the theory that it might leave someone out of the process. I thought consensus was we could lengthen a discussion, but not limit it.

Not that I think it matters in this case; I'm just being a pedant.


Wolfram - May 19, 2003 3:18:59 pm PDT #1411 of 10289
Visilurking

Sorry I didn't respond. The answer to the question is that March 20th was the date I proposed it, and in that proposal I said "As from today". I figured that I got four seconds for the idea that as from March 20th there was a moratorium.

I missed this, thanks Betsy. Well I don't have anything further to discuss, but I guess I'm with the people who think discussion should stay open through the fourth day. And also that implies that although a final ballot has been posted, it can still be modified by Betsy, if she wants to, before the vote.


Noumenon - May 19, 2003 3:23:08 pm PDT #1412 of 10289
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Not that I think it matters in this case; I'm just being a pedant.

That's the same reason I got all stampy about the process even though I was too lazy to answer Betsy's question about when it would be proper to vote.


brenda m - May 19, 2003 3:23:53 pm PDT #1413 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

If we count the 16th as a full day, then we could go to vote midnight tonight. (Counting from Cindy's post in Press.) If not, midnight (or 2pm) tomorrow. I don't much care which way we go.