Xander: I still don't get why we came here to get info about a killer snot monster. Giles: Because it's a killer snot monster from outer space. I did not say that.

'Never Leave Me'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Wolfram - May 19, 2003 2:08:45 pm PDT #1394 of 10289
Visilurking

I still don't know why March 20 is the date in the proposal and not February 22, or an earlier "fairer" date. But other than that, I think the proposal looks great. Thanks for all the hard work, Betsy.


Jon B. - May 19, 2003 2:11:37 pm PDT #1395 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Can somebody set up the vote? (Have we discussed this long enough that asking for a vote is proper?)

I'll set up the ballot. When does voting start? Tomorrow night at Midnight or tonight?


Cindy - May 19, 2003 2:13:57 pm PDT #1396 of 10289
Nobody

March 20th is the date, because that's when Betsy originally made the grandfather proposal in bureau. And for the love of all that's holy, it's this kind of pedantry (and believe me, I have pedantry coursing though my veins in lieu of blood) that makes these discussions so difficult. March 20? February 22? Who gives a fig? It's Betsy's proposal, it's her date. She can throw in the 12th of Never, and we either vote yes or no, based on content, date, or how she used commas.


Wolfram - May 19, 2003 2:23:50 pm PDT #1397 of 10289
Visilurking

Cindy, I thought this thread was for discussion/suggestions about the proposal. I don't understand where I crossed the line here, since I asked this question three times and nobody addressed it.


Nutty - May 19, 2003 2:34:22 pm PDT #1398 of 10289
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, the short version is, what the proposer says goes on the proposal. She may listen to our suggestions, and accept some of them, and reject some of them. Betsy hated my "interdict" and didn't use it, and that's her right, even if I much prefer the $0.50 word. (It's a cool word!)

I think, though, that Betsy's most recent post was intended as the final text of the ballot, in which case all of this is Monday-morning quarterbacking, which may be where Cindy's frustration lies. Cindy, am I right?


Betsy HP - May 19, 2003 2:34:56 pm PDT #1399 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

Sorry I didn't respond. The answer to the question is that March 20th was the date I proposed it, and in that proposal I said "As from today". I figured that I got four seconds for the idea that as from March 20th there was a moratorium. If I were changing it, I'd change it to May 20th.


Betsy HP - May 19, 2003 2:36:13 pm PDT #1400 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

I think, though, that Betsy's most recent post was intended as the final text of the ballot,

It was indeed, and it said so explicitly.


Cindy - May 19, 2003 2:39:14 pm PDT #1401 of 10289
Nobody

I was trying to come across as flippant and ended up sounding bitchy. I'm sorry Wolfram. But Nutty's right on why I posted at all, I just felt like it's done, she posted her final version - let it lie, but if we were face to face I (hope I wouldn't have) come across as nasty, but rather, that I would have made you laugh. Again, sorry.


Wolfram - May 19, 2003 2:44:51 pm PDT #1402 of 10289
Visilurking

I know I'm going to get yelled at for this. But wasn't it four days discussion, three days voting? Is the discussion period over?

I'm really confused now.


Dana - May 19, 2003 2:48:25 pm PDT #1403 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Four days discussion maximum. I believe we can move it to the voting stage earlier if no one has anything new to add.