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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


brenda m - May 19, 2003 3:08:13 pm PDT #1408 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Four days discussion maximum. I believe we can move it to the voting stage earlier if no one has anything new to add.

Eh, much as I'd like to move on with this, I don't agree.

There's nothing that says we have to continue discussing this, or that Betsy can't post her final version of the proposal whenever she wants. But I don't think we should go to voting until the end of the fourth day.


Betsy HP - May 19, 2003 3:10:49 pm PDT #1409 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

I did ask

(Have we discussed this long enough that asking for a vote is proper?)

If it wasn't proper, then discussion is still open.


Lyra Jane - May 19, 2003 3:17:45 pm PDT #1410 of 10289
Up with the sun

I believe we can move it to the voting stage earlier if no one has anything new to add.

I thought we specifically said we couldn't do this, on the theory that it might leave someone out of the process. I thought consensus was we could lengthen a discussion, but not limit it.

Not that I think it matters in this case; I'm just being a pedant.


Wolfram - May 19, 2003 3:18:59 pm PDT #1411 of 10289
Visilurking

Sorry I didn't respond. The answer to the question is that March 20th was the date I proposed it, and in that proposal I said "As from today". I figured that I got four seconds for the idea that as from March 20th there was a moratorium.

I missed this, thanks Betsy. Well I don't have anything further to discuss, but I guess I'm with the people who think discussion should stay open through the fourth day. And also that implies that although a final ballot has been posted, it can still be modified by Betsy, if she wants to, before the vote.


Noumenon - May 19, 2003 3:23:08 pm PDT #1412 of 10289
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Not that I think it matters in this case; I'm just being a pedant.

That's the same reason I got all stampy about the process even though I was too lazy to answer Betsy's question about when it would be proper to vote.


brenda m - May 19, 2003 3:23:53 pm PDT #1413 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

If we count the 16th as a full day, then we could go to vote midnight tonight. (Counting from Cindy's post in Press.) If not, midnight (or 2pm) tomorrow. I don't much care which way we go.


Jon B. - May 19, 2003 3:26:38 pm PDT #1414 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Voting should start either tonight (which would allow for four days of discussion if you include Friday's partial day) or tomorrow night (which would allow for four full days of discussion). For previous votes, it's been up to the proposer which way to go.


Wolfram - May 19, 2003 3:28:53 pm PDT #1415 of 10289
Visilurking

Why does voting have to start at night? Can't voting start at noon tomorrow or 2:00 p.m. tomorrow?


Jon B. - May 19, 2003 3:37:36 pm PDT #1416 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

It could, but the ballot will be put up at night regardless of when the voting starts, because that's when I have time to post it. ;)


Wolfram - May 19, 2003 3:42:34 pm PDT #1417 of 10289
Visilurking

It could, but the ballot will be put up at night regardless of when the voting starts, because that's when I have time to post it. ;)

Heh, I forgot you were the mad midnight ballot poster what posts ballots at midnight.