Sorry Betsy, and Cindy.
Please don't apologize, Wolfram. I haven't been paying any attention to how long it's been going on. If it started on Friday, it should go 'til tomorrow.
Mal ,'Safe'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Sorry Betsy, and Cindy.
Please don't apologize, Wolfram. I haven't been paying any attention to how long it's been going on. If it started on Friday, it should go 'til tomorrow.
Four days discussion maximum. I believe we can move it to the voting stage earlier if no one has anything new to add.
Eh, much as I'd like to move on with this, I don't agree.
There's nothing that says we have to continue discussing this, or that Betsy can't post her final version of the proposal whenever she wants. But I don't think we should go to voting until the end of the fourth day.
I did ask
(Have we discussed this long enough that asking for a vote is proper?)
If it wasn't proper, then discussion is still open.
I believe we can move it to the voting stage earlier if no one has anything new to add.
I thought we specifically said we couldn't do this, on the theory that it might leave someone out of the process. I thought consensus was we could lengthen a discussion, but not limit it.
Not that I think it matters in this case; I'm just being a pedant.
Sorry I didn't respond. The answer to the question is that March 20th was the date I proposed it, and in that proposal I said "As from today". I figured that I got four seconds for the idea that as from March 20th there was a moratorium.
I missed this, thanks Betsy. Well I don't have anything further to discuss, but I guess I'm with the people who think discussion should stay open through the fourth day. And also that implies that although a final ballot has been posted, it can still be modified by Betsy, if she wants to, before the vote.
Not that I think it matters in this case; I'm just being a pedant.
That's the same reason I got all stampy about the process even though I was too lazy to answer Betsy's question about when it would be proper to vote.
If we count the 16th as a full day, then we could go to vote midnight tonight. (Counting from Cindy's post in Press.) If not, midnight (or 2pm) tomorrow. I don't much care which way we go.
Voting should start either tonight (which would allow for four days of discussion if you include Friday's partial day) or tomorrow night (which would allow for four full days of discussion). For previous votes, it's been up to the proposer which way to go.
Why does voting have to start at night? Can't voting start at noon tomorrow or 2:00 p.m. tomorrow?
It could, but the ballot will be put up at night regardless of when the voting starts, because that's when I have time to post it. ;)