Did you feel it was NOT in good hands with Davies?
No, but I think Moffat is way better a writer than Davies. He has all my favourite Who eps to his credit, and off-Who I love his Coupling work.
I like Davies well enough. Just not as much.
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§ ita § - May 22, 2008 4:51:42 am PDT #2467 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Frankenbuddha - May 22, 2008 5:07:53 am PDT #2468 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I like Davies well enough. Just not as much.
Gotcha. I couldn't remember any posts disparaging Davies' overall handling (specific episodes, yes), so I was confused. I do agree that Moffat has been the best writer by far, so hopefully that will segues into good showrunning.
I've never seen Coupling or Queer as Folk, so I have no basis to judge either of them on, outside the Who-verse (Whoville?).
Is Davies going to continue with Torchwood, I wonder?
Frankenbuddha - May 22, 2008 5:09:37 am PDT #2469 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
And I just bunnied myself with an x-over version of Horton Hears a Who.
victor infante - May 22, 2008 6:29:54 am PDT #2470 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
While I think Whedon has an edge on Davies overall, they've both created some pretty stunning television and conceptualized some enormously important characters (Buffy Summers and Capt. Jack Harkness, all on their own, should probably make any critics choice of the most important fictional characters of the last twenty odd years.) So no, I have no problem with drawing comparisons between the two.
Nor do I have issues with comparisons between Moffat and our own Mr. Minear, as they both excel at taking the ideas that were handed to them and accelerating them into something cooler than words.
§ ita § - May 22, 2008 6:49:39 am PDT #2471 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Captain Jack Harkness? Really? I don't see the argument for him. He's enjoyable, and can be well-handled, but I don't think he says anything near as much as Buffy does.
Polter-Cow - May 22, 2008 6:53:16 am PDT #2472 of 30001
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Yeah, I wouldn't have put him in the same category as Buffy at all. But I don't watch Torchwood. Is it just because he has sex with everything? That's new for main characters, I suppose.
Kathy A - May 22, 2008 6:56:47 am PDT #2473 of 30001
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Would Capt. Jack be considered the first gay/bi lead in an action/adventure/SF show? I'm counting US and UK tv here. I know he's the first I've seen on US tv, but Torchwood is BBC, so I'm wondering if he's the first on UK tv as well.
Ailleann - May 22, 2008 7:04:42 am PDT #2474 of 30001
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Are we including The Doctor himself?
victor infante - May 22, 2008 7:05:08 am PDT #2475 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I'd say Jack is clearly the first overt homosexual/bisexual action hero in English-language television. And that's important.
Vortex - May 22, 2008 7:05:10 am PDT #2476 of 30001
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Would Capt. Jack be considered the first gay/bi lead in an action/adventure/SF show?
I think so, and I think that's why he's important. Of course, I would like to see him with a woman once in a while :) OTOH, I think that the producers aren't putting him with women because they're trying to intimate that he's holding a torch for Gwen, and she's the only woman he can love (hurl)