I'd say Jack is clearly the first overt homosexual/bisexual action hero in English-language television. And that's important.
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victor infante - May 22, 2008 7:05:08 am PDT #2475 of 30001
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Vortex - May 22, 2008 7:05:10 am PDT #2476 of 30001
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Would Capt. Jack be considered the first gay/bi lead in an action/adventure/SF show?
I think so, and I think that's why he's important. Of course, I would like to see him with a woman once in a while :) OTOH, I think that the producers aren't putting him with women because they're trying to intimate that he's holding a torch for Gwen, and she's the only woman he can love (hurl)
Typo Boy - May 22, 2008 7:06:08 am PDT #2477 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Typo Boy - May 22, 2008 7:09:07 am PDT #2478 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Oh and the earlier conversation about the Doctor and the Endless inspired a bunny:
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WindSparrow - May 22, 2008 7:25:02 am PDT #2479 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
Of course, I would like to see him with a woman once in a while :) OTOH, I think that the producers aren't putting him with women because they're trying to intimate that he's holding a torch for Gwen, and she's the only woman he can love (hurl)
What about Rose? He certainly flirted with her, at least until the Doctor A) warned him off her; and 2) took Jack's fancy himself.
Also, there was that sweet little old lady with the fairies, with whom Jack had had something nice going, back when she was young, that he had lied to about being his own son so he could get in touch with again.
But yeah, showing that Jack has occasionally fancied females is not the same as showing him in a current relationship with one.
Fred Pete - May 22, 2008 7:38:21 am PDT #2480 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.
But Jack's in a current relationship with Ianto. And while he's not exactly monogamous, I don't think he'd try to juggle two SOs at once.
Group relationship, maybe. But I don't see Ianto being too keen on that.
sumi - May 22, 2008 7:40:20 am PDT #2481 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Sciffy schedule - I wonder why, after BSG ends (mid-month) they're running repeats of SG-1 instead of new episodes of SGA. Doesn't make sense, does it?
Ailleann - May 22, 2008 8:25:25 am PDT #2482 of 30001
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I thought SGA didn't start again until July 11?
§ ita § - May 22, 2008 8:28:45 am PDT #2483 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The idea of Jack might be important, but it remains to be seen how that will play out on the sci fi landscape. You can say a lot or very little with something like that.
sumi - May 22, 2008 9:16:18 am PDT #2484 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Yeah, but they are all in the can, they could totally run them starting June 20th.