Spike: Heard what happened up top, offing your dad and all. Don't know if you know this, but, uh…I killed my mum. Actually, I'd already killed her, and then she tried to shag me, so I had to-- Wesley: Thank you. I'm…very comforted.

'Lineage'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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Connie Neil - Feb 16, 2005 2:51:24 pm PST #3296 of 3531
brillig

Hah! Slashers are happy tonight.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2005 2:53:05 pm PST #3297 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Hah! Slashers are happy tonight.

In the I-net, the lovely I-net, the slashers meep tonight...


Connie Neil - Feb 16, 2005 2:55:07 pm PST #3298 of 3531
brillig

Now we just have to figure out what Spike considers "intimate", if he and Angel only got intimate once.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2005 3:48:54 pm PST #3299 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm thinking it was just that once for the flowers and candy.


Betsy HP - Feb 16, 2005 4:27:24 pm PST #3300 of 3531
If I only had a brain...

They didn't get anywhere because they turned out both to be bottoms.


Fred Pete - Feb 16, 2005 4:42:31 pm PST #3301 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.

Angel is a bottom. Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top.


JZ - Feb 16, 2005 4:48:25 pm PST #3302 of 3531
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top.

I dunno. Someone who goes around calling himself "love's bitch" doesn't strike me as a guy with a lot of illusions about his topness.

eta: Or is it "toppitude"? "toposity"?


Fred Pete - Feb 16, 2005 4:57:08 pm PST #3303 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.

But it also isn't easy to think of a Spike who'd have the Buffybot moan, "You're the Big Bad!" as someone who'd take a submissive role.

Maybe a bottom who wishes he were a top.


JZ - Feb 16, 2005 5:01:26 pm PST #3304 of 3531
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

H'm. I'd forgotten the Buffybot. And he cuffed Buffy herself. Though he also let her beat the holy crap out of him. Can one be physically a top and a completely emotionally submissive love's bitch at the same time?


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2005 6:56:31 pm PST #3305 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The terms can apply either to physical position or dom/sub dynamics, and the two aren't always synonymous.

I don't see Angel as a bottom in either sense of the word, but that may have as much to do with my impression of Lindsey as with Angel himself.