I'm thinking it was just that once for the flowers and candy.
You know, with the exception of one deadly and unpredictable midget, this girl is the smallest cargo I've ever had to transport. Yet by far the most troublesome. Does that seem right to you?
Early ,'Objects In Space'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2005 3:48:54 pm PST #3299 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Betsy HP - Feb 16, 2005 4:27:24 pm PST #3300 of 3531
If I only had a brain...
They didn't get anywhere because they turned out both to be bottoms.
Fred Pete - Feb 16, 2005 4:42:31 pm PST #3301 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.
Angel is a bottom. Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top.
JZ - Feb 16, 2005 4:48:25 pm PST #3302 of 3531
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top.
I dunno. Someone who goes around calling himself "love's bitch" doesn't strike me as a guy with a lot of illusions about his topness.
eta: Or is it "toppitude"? "toposity"?
Fred Pete - Feb 16, 2005 4:57:08 pm PST #3303 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.
But it also isn't easy to think of a Spike who'd have the Buffybot moan, "You're the Big Bad!" as someone who'd take a submissive role.
Maybe a bottom who wishes he were a top.
JZ - Feb 16, 2005 5:01:26 pm PST #3304 of 3531
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
H'm. I'd forgotten the Buffybot. And he cuffed Buffy herself. Though he also let her beat the holy crap out of him. Can one be physically a top and a completely emotionally submissive love's bitch at the same time?
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2005 6:56:31 pm PST #3305 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
The terms can apply either to physical position or dom/sub dynamics, and the two aren't always synonymous.
I don't see Angel as a bottom in either sense of the word, but that may have as much to do with my impression of Lindsey as with Angel himself.
Vortex - Feb 17, 2005 6:22:53 am PST #3306 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Angel is a bottom. Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top
CLASSIC.
Maybe a bottom who wishes he were a top.
also true
I think that lindsey would be a top, because he would want to be in control, which he never was. I don't know that Angel would let him, though. But maybe if he were feeling the need to be punished . . .
Dana - Feb 17, 2005 6:25:08 am PST #3307 of 3531
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Oh, Lindsey is such a bottom.
Steph L. - Feb 17, 2005 7:56:56 am PST #3308 of 3531
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top
Which is why Angelus + Spike is pure porn, baby.
An awful lot of Jossverse guys are bottoms. Interesting.
Though Wesley, I'm thinking, is a top who thinks he should be a bottom, which is far rarer than a bottom who thinks he's a top.