So, how was your summer? Mine was fun. Saw some fish. Went mad with hunger. Hallucinated a whole bunch.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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Connie Neil - Feb 16, 2005 2:55:07 pm PST #3298 of 3531
brillig

Now we just have to figure out what Spike considers "intimate", if he and Angel only got intimate once.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2005 3:48:54 pm PST #3299 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm thinking it was just that once for the flowers and candy.


Betsy HP - Feb 16, 2005 4:27:24 pm PST #3300 of 3531
If I only had a brain...

They didn't get anywhere because they turned out both to be bottoms.


Fred Pete - Feb 16, 2005 4:42:31 pm PST #3301 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.

Angel is a bottom. Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top.


JZ - Feb 16, 2005 4:48:25 pm PST #3302 of 3531
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top.

I dunno. Someone who goes around calling himself "love's bitch" doesn't strike me as a guy with a lot of illusions about his topness.

eta: Or is it "toppitude"? "toposity"?


Fred Pete - Feb 16, 2005 4:57:08 pm PST #3303 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.

But it also isn't easy to think of a Spike who'd have the Buffybot moan, "You're the Big Bad!" as someone who'd take a submissive role.

Maybe a bottom who wishes he were a top.


JZ - Feb 16, 2005 5:01:26 pm PST #3304 of 3531
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

H'm. I'd forgotten the Buffybot. And he cuffed Buffy herself. Though he also let her beat the holy crap out of him. Can one be physically a top and a completely emotionally submissive love's bitch at the same time?


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2005 6:56:31 pm PST #3305 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The terms can apply either to physical position or dom/sub dynamics, and the two aren't always synonymous.

I don't see Angel as a bottom in either sense of the word, but that may have as much to do with my impression of Lindsey as with Angel himself.


Vortex - Feb 17, 2005 6:22:53 am PST #3306 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Angel is a bottom. Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top

CLASSIC.

Maybe a bottom who wishes he were a top.

also true

I think that lindsey would be a top, because he would want to be in control, which he never was. I don't know that Angel would let him, though. But maybe if he were feeling the need to be punished . . .


Dana - Feb 17, 2005 6:25:08 am PST #3307 of 3531
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, Lindsey is such a bottom.