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Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?

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Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2005 6:56:31 pm PST #3305 of 3531

"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The terms can apply either to physical position or dom/sub dynamics, and the two aren't always synonymous.

I don't see Angel as a bottom in either sense of the word, but that may have as much to do with my impression of Lindsey as with Angel himself.

Vortex - Feb 17, 2005 6:22:53 am PST #3306 of 3531

"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Angel is a bottom. Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top

CLASSIC.

Maybe a bottom who wishes he were a top.

also true

I think that lindsey would be a top, because he would want to be in control, which he never was. I don't know that Angel would let him, though. But maybe if he were feeling the need to be punished . . .

Dana - Feb 17, 2005 6:25:08 am PST #3307 of 3531

I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, Lindsey is such a bottom.

Steph L. - Feb 17, 2005 7:56:56 am PST #3308 of 3531

Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top

Which is why Angelus + Spike is pure porn, baby.

An awful lot of Jossverse guys are bottoms. Interesting.

Though Wesley, I'm thinking, is a top who thinks he should be a bottom, which is far rarer than a bottom who thinks he's a top.

brenda m - Feb 17, 2005 7:58:43 am PST #3309 of 3531

If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I can see Angel, as opposed to Angelus, taking a sub role, but there'd be a fair amount of topping from below going on.

Calli - Feb 17, 2005 9:27:04 am PST #3310 of 3531

I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

An awful lot of Jossverse guys are bottoms. Interesting.

I'd say Giles is a top. Gunn's a top who'd probably bottom for someone he was really gaga over. Xander -- so bottomly bottom a bottom has never before bottomed.

Fred Pete - Feb 17, 2005 9:31:08 am PST #3311 of 3531

Ann, that's a ferret.

so bottomly bottom a bottom has never before bottomed.

Actually, that would be Lorne.

Betsy HP - Feb 17, 2005 9:35:09 am PST #3312 of 3531

If I only had a brain...

Lorne is a queen, but that's not the same thing necessarily.

§ ita § - Feb 17, 2005 9:37:02 am PST #3313 of 3531

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can see Lorne in the leather with a whip no problem. Nipple clamps in one hand, seabreeze in the other.

Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 17, 2005 9:39:18 am PST #3314 of 3531

"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Damn you, I'm never going to be able to get rid of that mental image now!

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