They didn't get anywhere because they turned out both to be bottoms.
You're right. He's evil. But you should see him naked. I mean really!
Buffybot ,'Dirty Girls'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Betsy HP - Feb 16, 2005 4:27:24 pm PST #3300 of 3531
If I only had a brain...
Fred Pete - Feb 16, 2005 4:42:31 pm PST #3301 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.
Angel is a bottom. Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top.
JZ - Feb 16, 2005 4:48:25 pm PST #3302 of 3531
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top.
I dunno. Someone who goes around calling himself "love's bitch" doesn't strike me as a guy with a lot of illusions about his topness.
eta: Or is it "toppitude"? "toposity"?
Fred Pete - Feb 16, 2005 4:57:08 pm PST #3303 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.
But it also isn't easy to think of a Spike who'd have the Buffybot moan, "You're the Big Bad!" as someone who'd take a submissive role.
Maybe a bottom who wishes he were a top.
JZ - Feb 16, 2005 5:01:26 pm PST #3304 of 3531
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
H'm. I'd forgotten the Buffybot. And he cuffed Buffy herself. Though he also let her beat the holy crap out of him. Can one be physically a top and a completely emotionally submissive love's bitch at the same time?
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2005 6:56:31 pm PST #3305 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
The terms can apply either to physical position or dom/sub dynamics, and the two aren't always synonymous.
I don't see Angel as a bottom in either sense of the word, but that may have as much to do with my impression of Lindsey as with Angel himself.
Vortex - Feb 17, 2005 6:22:53 am PST #3306 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Angel is a bottom. Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top
CLASSIC.
Maybe a bottom who wishes he were a top.
also true
I think that lindsey would be a top, because he would want to be in control, which he never was. I don't know that Angel would let him, though. But maybe if he were feeling the need to be punished . . .
Dana - Feb 17, 2005 6:25:08 am PST #3307 of 3531
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Oh, Lindsey is such a bottom.
Steph L. - Feb 17, 2005 7:56:56 am PST #3308 of 3531
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
Angelus is a top. Spike is a bottom who thinks he's a top
Which is why Angelus + Spike is pure porn, baby.
An awful lot of Jossverse guys are bottoms. Interesting.
Though Wesley, I'm thinking, is a top who thinks he should be a bottom, which is far rarer than a bottom who thinks he's a top.
brenda m - Feb 17, 2005 7:58:43 am PST #3309 of 3531
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I can see Angel, as opposed to Angelus, taking a sub role, but there'd be a fair amount of topping from below going on.