Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?

'Trash'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Beverly - May 14, 2004 12:40:26 pm PDT #242 of 3531
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm sure there's someone around FOX who's floated a Spike spin-off.

Hmm. If there's anyone left in Tinseltown who still thinks they can float a scripted show, do we think there's a chance of someone actually trying this? If--and it's only purely for idle surmising--someone not-ME did obtain permission to use the character and came up with a script for a pilot, would JM want to continue being Spike? If it wasn't an ME enterprise?


Bishop - May 14, 2004 12:53:18 pm PDT #243 of 3531
Lapsed Lurker

I have doubts that JM would want to do it without ME or Joss having any involvement. Can they do that without them, though? I'm not sure if Mutant Enemy has any ownership.


Madrigal Costello - May 14, 2004 12:53:22 pm PDT #244 of 3531
It's a remora, dimwit.

So they need to try a vampire themed reality show. They could have VAMPS - like COPS, they follow around vampires going after people with hand-held cameras at night. Unlike COPS, sometimes the camera men get eaten. Elimi-Stake: One male or female vampire goes on a date with four others - each round, the least desirable one is staked. Extreme Magical Makeover: participants get to be transformed into the mythological being of their choice. They then compete in both beauty and killing pageants.


Kristen - May 14, 2004 12:58:18 pm PDT #245 of 3531

I'm sure there's someone around FOX who's floated a Spike spin-off.

I think Spike was supposed to be on the Faith spinoff.

Can they do that without them, though?

I remember with the BtVS series, they had to give Joss the option of being involved first. But I think that, had he turned them down, they still could have made the show without him. He sold them the property.


§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:00:04 pm PDT #246 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is is standard to have sold the property? Or do some creators "just" sell the episodes?


Kristen - May 14, 2004 1:06:37 pm PDT #247 of 3531

Is is standard to have sold the property?

Yep. I can't think of a single example otherwise. Once you sell a script, TV or feature, you lose most of the control. You still get the money but you don't get so much of a say. It's why there can be a DLM without Fuller and a TWW without Sorkin.

After a certain point, I think the rights to Buffy revert back to Joss. But I think that's probably a long way off.


Daisy Jane - May 14, 2004 1:10:38 pm PDT #248 of 3531
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Spike did love Drusilla, but that didn't keep him from killing other people.

It did make him help Buffy stop the world from ending.


§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:13:45 pm PDT #249 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's why there can be a DLM without Fuller and a TWW without Sorkin.

Mmm. Interesting.


-t - May 14, 2004 1:15:28 pm PDT #250 of 3531
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hmm, all this talk of vampires and their need to be sociable has given me a wild hair.

They're all just bits of the Vampire from back in Old Ones' days, yes? Maybe it wants to reunify somehow?

This should tie into the Wolf Ram and Hart somehow...


bon bon - May 14, 2004 1:18:50 pm PDT #251 of 3531
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Isn't it the case that Buffy is owned by 20th's film division, b/c of the movie?