Isn't it the case that Buffy is owned by 20th's film division, b/c of the movie?
Wash: Captain, didn't you know kissin' girls makes you sleepy? Mal: Well sometimes I just can't help myself.
'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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bon bon - May 14, 2004 1:18:50 pm PDT #251 of 3531
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Kristen - May 14, 2004 1:24:01 pm PDT #252 of 3531
Well yes. The Buffy deal is more complicated because of the movie.
I'm trying to think of an example of a show creator who successfully stopped their show from continuing or being spun off without them. Or a feature writer who blocked a movie from being made. I can come up with one who tried but he didn't get anywhere.
§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:27:35 pm PDT #253 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Who tried?
My brain is trying to construct parallels with comics, but that isn't making anything any simpler.
Madrigal Costello - May 14, 2004 1:27:50 pm PDT #254 of 3531
It's a remora, dimwit.
I think it might be the human aspect of the half-breed vampire that drives them to socialize. They form nests, they get those eternal love bonds, they sire new vampires and keep them with them as lackeys and companions. Maybe that's why they were referred to as "The Lonely Ones" - they're evil people who need people.
§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:38:42 pm PDT #255 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
DebetEsse - May 14, 2004 2:01:14 pm PDT #256 of 3531
Woe to the fucking wicked.
You know, they've been talking about the Wolf, Ram, and Hart enough that I'd love to see the MoG, in trying to take down the Balck Thorn, actually manage to take them down, or Illyria (or Lorne? with the Pylea thing) stepping in with some knowledge or connection or something that does it.
I'd hate to see those references not paying off.
Topic!Cindy - May 14, 2004 2:28:09 pm PDT #257 of 3531
What is even happening?
they're evil people who need people.
And the evilest people in the world...
A Bronzer has a Buffy & Angel Timeline that starts around the 1600s and goes forward. I haven't looked at it for a long time, but it's here:
Topic!Cindy - May 14, 2004 2:29:36 pm PDT #258 of 3531
What is even happening?
victor infante - May 14, 2004 2:51:48 pm PDT #259 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
1974: Barry Manilow II is released on LP. The song “Mandy” has a profound impact on Angel, who will even attend his concerts. The album will go double platinum.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
aurelia - May 14, 2004 2:53:21 pm PDT #260 of 3531
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Sometimes. Other times they're just dangling threads left there to drive the fans crazy.
Signed, Still Bitter About Halfrek's "William?"
I love the occasional thing like this. It leaves room for me to imagine some life changing event Cecily had after rejecting William that led to her becoming a vengance demon. The idea that William and Cecily could've had normal mundane lives if she'd been more open to his advances (or at least hadn't knocked him down on that particular night) intrigues me.
In terms of Spike's contribution to AtS... I think Spike has made Angel reflect on his past more and examine his choices and his path more closely. And the old married couple exchanges are damn funny.