Spike did love Drusilla, but that didn't keep him from killing other people.
It did make him help Buffy stop the world from ending.
Oh, at first it was confusing. Just the idea of computers was like — whoa! I'm eleven hundred years old! I had trouble adjusting to the idea of Lutherans.
Anya ,'Get It Done'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Daisy Jane - May 14, 2004 1:10:38 pm PDT #248 of 3531
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:13:45 pm PDT #249 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's why there can be a DLM without Fuller and a TWW without Sorkin.
Mmm. Interesting.
-t - May 14, 2004 1:15:28 pm PDT #250 of 3531
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Hmm, all this talk of vampires and their need to be sociable has given me a wild hair.
They're all just bits of the Vampire from back in Old Ones' days, yes? Maybe it wants to reunify somehow?
This should tie into the Wolf Ram and Hart somehow...
bon bon - May 14, 2004 1:18:50 pm PDT #251 of 3531
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Isn't it the case that Buffy is owned by 20th's film division, b/c of the movie?
Kristen - May 14, 2004 1:24:01 pm PDT #252 of 3531
Well yes. The Buffy deal is more complicated because of the movie.
I'm trying to think of an example of a show creator who successfully stopped their show from continuing or being spun off without them. Or a feature writer who blocked a movie from being made. I can come up with one who tried but he didn't get anywhere.
§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:27:35 pm PDT #253 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Who tried?
My brain is trying to construct parallels with comics, but that isn't making anything any simpler.
Madrigal Costello - May 14, 2004 1:27:50 pm PDT #254 of 3531
It's a remora, dimwit.
I think it might be the human aspect of the half-breed vampire that drives them to socialize. They form nests, they get those eternal love bonds, they sire new vampires and keep them with them as lackeys and companions. Maybe that's why they were referred to as "The Lonely Ones" - they're evil people who need people.
§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:38:42 pm PDT #255 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
DebetEsse - May 14, 2004 2:01:14 pm PDT #256 of 3531
Woe to the fucking wicked.
You know, they've been talking about the Wolf, Ram, and Hart enough that I'd love to see the MoG, in trying to take down the Balck Thorn, actually manage to take them down, or Illyria (or Lorne? with the Pylea thing) stepping in with some knowledge or connection or something that does it.
I'd hate to see those references not paying off.
Topic!Cindy - May 14, 2004 2:28:09 pm PDT #257 of 3531
What is even happening?
they're evil people who need people.
And the evilest people in the world...
A Bronzer has a Buffy & Angel Timeline that starts around the 1600s and goes forward. I haven't looked at it for a long time, but it's here: