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This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?

Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'

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Kristen - May 14, 2004 12:58:18 pm PDT #245 of 3531

I'm sure there's someone around FOX who's floated a Spike spin-off.

I think Spike was supposed to be on the Faith spinoff.

Can they do that without them, though?

I remember with the BtVS series, they had to give Joss the option of being involved first. But I think that, had he turned them down, they still could have made the show without him. He sold them the property.

§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:00:04 pm PDT #246 of 3531

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is is standard to have sold the property? Or do some creators "just" sell the episodes?

Kristen - May 14, 2004 1:06:37 pm PDT #247 of 3531

Is is standard to have sold the property?

Yep. I can't think of a single example otherwise. Once you sell a script, TV or feature, you lose most of the control. You still get the money but you don't get so much of a say. It's why there can be a DLM without Fuller and a TWW without Sorkin.

After a certain point, I think the rights to Buffy revert back to Joss. But I think that's probably a long way off.

Daisy Jane - May 14, 2004 1:10:38 pm PDT #248 of 3531

"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Spike did love Drusilla, but that didn't keep him from killing other people.

It did make him help Buffy stop the world from ending.

§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:13:45 pm PDT #249 of 3531

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's why there can be a DLM without Fuller and a TWW without Sorkin.

Mmm. Interesting.

-t - May 14, 2004 1:15:28 pm PDT #250 of 3531

I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hmm, all this talk of vampires and their need to be sociable has given me a wild hair.

They're all just bits of the Vampire from back in Old Ones' days, yes? Maybe it wants to reunify somehow?

This should tie into the Wolf Ram and Hart somehow...

bon bon - May 14, 2004 1:18:50 pm PDT #251 of 3531

It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Isn't it the case that Buffy is owned by 20th's film division, b/c of the movie?

Kristen - May 14, 2004 1:24:01 pm PDT #252 of 3531

Well yes. The Buffy deal is more complicated because of the movie.

I'm trying to think of an example of a show creator who successfully stopped their show from continuing or being spun off without them. Or a feature writer who blocked a movie from being made. I can come up with one who tried but he didn't get anywhere.

§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:27:35 pm PDT #253 of 3531

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Who tried?

My brain is trying to construct parallels with comics, but that isn't making anything any simpler.

Madrigal Costello - May 14, 2004 1:27:50 pm PDT #254 of 3531

It's a remora, dimwit.

I think it might be the human aspect of the half-breed vampire that drives them to socialize. They form nests, they get those eternal love bonds, they sire new vampires and keep them with them as lackeys and companions. Maybe that's why they were referred to as "The Lonely Ones" - they're evil people who need people.

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