So they need to try a vampire themed reality show. They could have VAMPS - like COPS, they follow around vampires going after people with hand-held cameras at night. Unlike COPS, sometimes the camera men get eaten. Elimi-Stake: One male or female vampire goes on a date with four others - each round, the least desirable one is staked. Extreme Magical Makeover: participants get to be transformed into the mythological being of their choice. They then compete in both beauty and killing pageants.
We're still working on a plan, but so far it involves being sent to prison and becoming somebody's bitch.
Fred ,'Just Rewards (2)'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Madrigal Costello - May 14, 2004 12:53:22 pm PDT #244 of 3531
It's a remora, dimwit.
Kristen - May 14, 2004 12:58:18 pm PDT #245 of 3531
I'm sure there's someone around FOX who's floated a Spike spin-off.
I think Spike was supposed to be on the Faith spinoff.
Can they do that without them, though?
I remember with the BtVS series, they had to give Joss the option of being involved first. But I think that, had he turned them down, they still could have made the show without him. He sold them the property.
§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:00:04 pm PDT #246 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Is is standard to have sold the property? Or do some creators "just" sell the episodes?
Kristen - May 14, 2004 1:06:37 pm PDT #247 of 3531
Is is standard to have sold the property?
Yep. I can't think of a single example otherwise. Once you sell a script, TV or feature, you lose most of the control. You still get the money but you don't get so much of a say. It's why there can be a DLM without Fuller and a TWW without Sorkin.
After a certain point, I think the rights to Buffy revert back to Joss. But I think that's probably a long way off.
Daisy Jane - May 14, 2004 1:10:38 pm PDT #248 of 3531
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Spike did love Drusilla, but that didn't keep him from killing other people.
It did make him help Buffy stop the world from ending.
§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:13:45 pm PDT #249 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's why there can be a DLM without Fuller and a TWW without Sorkin.
Mmm. Interesting.
-t - May 14, 2004 1:15:28 pm PDT #250 of 3531
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Hmm, all this talk of vampires and their need to be sociable has given me a wild hair.
They're all just bits of the Vampire from back in Old Ones' days, yes? Maybe it wants to reunify somehow?
This should tie into the Wolf Ram and Hart somehow...
bon bon - May 14, 2004 1:18:50 pm PDT #251 of 3531
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Isn't it the case that Buffy is owned by 20th's film division, b/c of the movie?
Kristen - May 14, 2004 1:24:01 pm PDT #252 of 3531
Well yes. The Buffy deal is more complicated because of the movie.
I'm trying to think of an example of a show creator who successfully stopped their show from continuing or being spun off without them. Or a feature writer who blocked a movie from being made. I can come up with one who tried but he didn't get anywhere.
§ ita § - May 14, 2004 1:27:35 pm PDT #253 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Who tried?
My brain is trying to construct parallels with comics, but that isn't making anything any simpler.