Now I'm envisioning a River composed entirely of different colored jellybeans beating the crap out of everyone in a bar.
You got fired, and you still hang around here like a big loser. Why can't he?
Cordelia ,'Chosen'
Firefly Spoilers
Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 28, 2005 8:23:01 am PDT #1136 of 1424
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Mr. Broom - Jun 28, 2005 8:38:45 am PDT #1137 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Truly a sight that would be, in all definitions, shiny.
Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 29, 2005 11:15:51 am PDT #1138 of 1424
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
Now I'm envisioning a River composed entirely of different colored jellybeans beating the crap out of everyone in a bar.
I went to a place where Mal turned into a penguin. An angry penguin.
Kathy A - Jun 29, 2005 11:19:30 am PDT #1139 of 1424
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
"You're turning into a penguin, Mal. Stop it."
Barry Woodward - Jul 11, 2005 2:26:35 am PDT #1140 of 1424
I fought the law and I won!
Simon's words from the pilot:
"Money. And luck -- for two years I couldn't get near her, but I was contacted by some men, some underground movement. They said she was in danger, that the government was playing with her brain. If I funded them they could sneak her out in cryo. Get her to Boros and from there, I could take her... wherever."
Now does his rescue contradict that? From a certain point of view, namely mine, no. See, in my fanwank, the underground group helped him gain access to River in the first place but once he rescued her, he couldn't freely roam the streets of a core world where they were looking for her (and surely he was a suspect). That's why he had the same group put her in cryo and ship her to him in a less surveillance heavy section of the world (hence the "sneak her out" line), where he then caught a ride on Serenity in the pilot. Works for me.
Kiba Rika - Jul 11, 2005 2:46:06 am PDT #1141 of 1424
I may have to seize the cat.
Barry, it works. It just seems like a stretch to me.
Barry Woodward - Jul 11, 2005 3:00:19 am PDT #1142 of 1424
I fought the law and I won!
It is a bit of a stretch but saying Joss goofed up or purposefully chose to disregard that bit of information for the benefit of the movie (while probably true) isn't satisfying enough for me. It's preferable for me to come up with an explaination (however tenuous) in order to preserve the continuity of the verse in my head.
Steph L. - Jul 11, 2005 4:50:57 am PDT #1143 of 1424
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
but saying Joss goofed up or purposefully chose to disregard that bit of information for the benefit of the movie (while probably true) isn't satisfying enough for me. It's preferable for me to come up with an explaination (however tenuous) in order to preserve the continuity of the verse in my head.
And Angel was Spike's sire. Uh-huh.
Kiba Rika - Jul 11, 2005 4:56:42 am PDT #1144 of 1424
I may have to seize the cat.
Yeah. It just doesn't bother me to say, "Joss disregarded continuity on purpose," maybe because I've seen him say so in multiple interviews. Just the other night I was noticing how interestingly the episode "Darla" retconned Angel's experience with the Gypsy girl as portrayed in the episode "The Prodigal." (ie, Darla knew immediately that he had been cursed and kicked him out in "The Prodigal," whereas in "Darla" she seemed to be ignorant of or at least unbothered by this fact).
Nutty - Jul 11, 2005 5:17:59 am PDT #1145 of 1424
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
In other words, Joss's total willingness to retcon himself isn't a bug; it's a feature.