Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


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Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.

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§ ita § - Sep 29, 2005 1:06:26 pm PDT #1415 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Since Book could have been successfully played in the movie by a non-retarded white male, it's an error to call the role, even slightly, magical in its negritude. Sometimes melanin is just melanin.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 29, 2005 1:16:45 pm PDT #1416 of 1424
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis

Honestly I can't think of a single line or moment in the entire series or movie when Book's (or Zoe's, for that matter) race had any bearing whatsoever. Something that I applaud the creators for.


Strega - Sep 29, 2005 4:57:00 pm PDT #1417 of 1424

Oh, Matt, I didn't mean to cause paranoia! You certainly never said anything I found insulting.

In general, people criticizing my work or me as a writer doesn't bother me, because that's what I do and it's only fair. Pscyhoanalyzing me, and accusing me of hidden motives bugs me... unless it's really funny. And I feel like this is horribly self-absorbed so I'm gonna hush.


KernelM - Sep 29, 2005 5:38:27 pm PDT #1418 of 1424
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

Psychoanalyzing and attributing hidden motives? Gosh, TWOP recappers certainly never did that.

I find it interesting that the large majority of people reviewing the movie who hadn't seen the series before liked the movie just fine. But I guess they're just Studio Yes Men.

Also? Shut up, Strega. (Or wait, are we only allowed to say that to fictional characters that annoy us?)


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2005 5:41:31 pm PDT #1419 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kernel, it seems you're feeling very personally attacked here. However, you're getting explicitly personal, and that's not kosher.


Kristen - Sep 29, 2005 5:42:47 pm PDT #1420 of 1424

KernelM, maybe you're trying for funny but you've crossed way over into rude.


KernelM - Sep 29, 2005 5:53:13 pm PDT #1421 of 1424
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

Sorry. Was feeling venty, should have done it elsewhere.


Allyson - Sep 29, 2005 6:23:00 pm PDT #1422 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The apology is due in Strega's direction.


Strega - Sep 29, 2005 7:44:07 pm PDT #1423 of 1424

I wasn't speaking for other recappers. That's why I said "I" and "me."

I don't know what point you're trying to make. If you want to yell at me, feel free to email.


§ ita § - Sep 30, 2005 6:45:51 am PDT #1424 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you want to keep discussing Firefly, move it here: "Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains" Sep 30, 2005 8:43:55 am PDT.


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