Me either...of course those are all things that make my intimates say "Not those old things again!"

See, I don't have any problem with friends pairing up and breaking up on TV as long as it makes sense within the plot and with the characters. I just figure it's TV, and heartache and lust both play well. I don't have any great jones to see male-female friendships on TV, I guess, is what I'm saying, but I see where it would be annoying if you did.

Friends-not-becoming-lovers happens so rarely on TV that I feel cheated when they take that type of relationship away.

What Jon said.

I love a good strong cross-gender friendship -- because they're not exciting, because men and women can never be friends (yet I loved When Harry Met Sally). I was imprinted, as a child, by things like Modesty/Willie, and glommed right onto Storm/Logan (let us not talk of what may be happening these days in Ultimate or elsewhere). Because it is not easy, and is rarer than sex, and failed relationships, and I'm all about the capital P in "Platonic."

I've never heard anyone use this sentence before.

Me! Me!

Me! Me!

We're both Hughes-deprived?

high-fives ita

I was wondering whether people didn't believe friends-becoming-lovers actually happened in a positive way.

My issue, above and beyond how rare the Platonic is in the media, has more to do with the friend-who-pines-after-the-uninterested-friend getting the Girl/Boy/Other after the Girl/Boy/Other comes to His/Her/Its senses.

Friends-not-becoming-lovers happens so rarely on TV that I feel cheated when they take that type of relationship away.

With, of course, a side of this.

Plei is me. I think this idea of coming to your senses puts a lot of pressure on women (maybe it works for men and "nice girls" too, although I haven't put a lot of thought into it) to have feelings for the friend guy. The implication seems to be that if you're not attracted to the person pining for you that you're heartless or bitchy or something. Really, it's ok to not fall in love with your Brian Krakow.

Really, it's ok to not fall in love with your Brian Krakow.

I'm filled with a lot of (Platonic) love for a lot of people in this thread right now.

The rest of you are wackos.

I agree that it's perfectly okay not to fall in love with your Krakow. I just haven't seen the storyline played out so often that a wave of nausea overtakes me at the thought of a friends-becoming-lovers storyline. (Though I am sick of "they fight, then they kiss, then they fight!") This probably haas more to do with me not really watching a lot of TV, especially a lot of long running series, than anything else.

(Apropos of friends-to-more on TV, does anybody else remember Anything But Love, with Jamie Lee Curtis and Richard Lewis? I loved that show.)

Lyra, yes. And yes!