Plei is me. I think this idea of coming to your senses puts a lot of pressure on women (maybe it works for men and "nice girls" too, although I haven't put a lot of thought into it) to have feelings for the friend guy. The implication seems to be that if you're not attracted to the person pining for you that you're heartless or bitchy or something. Really, it's ok to not fall in love with your Brian Krakow.
Dreg: Glory, Your Most Fresh-And-Cleanness. It's only a matter of time-- Glory: Ugh, everything always takes time! What about my time? Does anyone appreciate I'm on a schedule here?! Tick tock, Dreg! Tick freakin' tock!
'Sleeper'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Sassy - Oct 12, 2004 12:17:03 pm PDT #9218 of 10001
'Til we dance away...
§ ita § - Oct 12, 2004 12:18:13 pm PDT #9219 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Really, it's ok to not fall in love with your Brian Krakow.
I'm filled with a lot of (Platonic) love for a lot of people in this thread right now.
The rest of you are wackos.
Lyra Jane - Oct 12, 2004 1:02:19 pm PDT #9220 of 10001
Up with the sun
I agree that it's perfectly okay not to fall in love with your Krakow. I just haven't seen the storyline played out so often that a wave of nausea overtakes me at the thought of a friends-becoming-lovers storyline. (Though I am sick of "they fight, then they kiss, then they fight!") This probably haas more to do with me not really watching a lot of TV, especially a lot of long running series, than anything else.
(Apropos of friends-to-more on TV, does anybody else remember Anything But Love, with Jamie Lee Curtis and Richard Lewis? I loved that show.)
Beverly - Oct 12, 2004 1:13:03 pm PDT #9221 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Lyra, yes. And yes!
erikaj - Oct 12, 2004 1:16:13 pm PDT #9222 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
What Lyra Said. And if I had a Krakow, I'd try to love him.
§ ita § - Oct 12, 2004 1:19:16 pm PDT #9223 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I am pretty against trying to love people. I mean, Love love. For me. I don't want anyone to try and Love me, and can't imagine what would tempt me to try the same for anyone else.
This is quite probably related to my loveless life -- I'm not sure what the payoff would be, nor am I sure I can force it and still get the payoff.
t /thread drift
Katie M - Oct 12, 2004 1:21:29 pm PDT #9224 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
(Though I am sick of "they fight, then they kiss, then they fight!")
Yeah, that's the plotline I have a kneejerk reaction to. "They act like they hate each other because they want each other!" That's far more alien to my personal experience than friends-to-lovers. Which is a lot of why Buffy/Spike never did anything for me, I think; I just kept getting stuck on "but they don't really like each other!" There are whole swathes of the romantic comedy genre that just leave me totally cold.
-t - Oct 12, 2004 1:22:05 pm PDT #9225 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I am pretty against trying to love people
In my experience, it's a bad idea. Which could have been explored with B/X, but would have ultimately marginalized Xander even further. So, glad they didn't go there.
Vortex - Oct 12, 2004 1:32:10 pm PDT #9226 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I have a dear friend that I wanted to love very badly, and did for a while, cause he seemed perfect. I soon learned that he wasn't, and in ways that would (and did) make me crazy. So, I got over him. It wasn't pretty, but it happened.
Lyra Jane - Oct 12, 2004 1:32:51 pm PDT #9227 of 10001
Up with the sun
I am pretty against trying to love people. I mean, Love love. For me. I don't want anyone to try and Love me, and can't imagine what would tempt me to try the same for anyone else.
ita is right. Love knows no logic, and you (well, for most values of "you" -- some people are wired differently) can't talk yourself or logic yourself or bully yourself into loving someone. Similarly, you can't persuade someone else to love you.
It would be a very different world if that wasn't true.
"They act like they hate each other because they want each other!" That's far more alien to my personal experience than friends-to-lovers
It's basically just the sixth grade thing of "he teases you because he likes you," only with sex. I didn't like it in the sixth grade, and I don't weant to see it on TV.
What's your reaction to Mulder/Scully, ita?