See, Vera? Dress yourself up; you get taken out somewhere fun.

Jayne ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Polter-Cow - Oct 12, 2004 10:41:27 am PDT #9209 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My problem with it is that friends-becoming-lovers happens all the time on TV! Positive or not has nothing to do with it. Friends-not-becoming-lovers happens so rarely on TV that I feel cheated when they take that type of relationship away.

Point. In TV, everyone has to pair up to appease the shippers.


Wolfram - Oct 12, 2004 10:46:21 am PDT #9210 of 10001
Visilurking

As I admitted in Movies, I'm also missing Pretty in Pink, Sixteen Candles, and The Breakfast Club.

I've never heard anyone use this sentence before. Seems like your John Hughes gap is suspiciously Molly Ringwald shaped.


Polter-Cow - Oct 12, 2004 10:47:05 am PDT #9211 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Seems like your John Hughes gap is suspiciously Molly Ringwald shaped.

Totally a coincidence. You forget my predilection for redheads.


erikaj - Oct 12, 2004 10:48:18 am PDT #9212 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Me either...of course those are all things that make my intimates say "Not those old things again!"


Lyra Jane - Oct 12, 2004 10:49:22 am PDT #9213 of 10001
Up with the sun

See, I don't have any problem with friends pairing up and breaking up on TV as long as it makes sense within the plot and with the characters. I just figure it's TV, and heartache and lust both play well. I don't have any great jones to see male-female friendships on TV, I guess, is what I'm saying, but I see where it would be annoying if you did.


§ ita § - Oct 12, 2004 10:52:30 am PDT #9214 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Friends-not-becoming-lovers happens so rarely on TV that I feel cheated when they take that type of relationship away.

What Jon said.

I love a good strong cross-gender friendship -- because they're not exciting, because men and women can never be friends (yet I loved When Harry Met Sally). I was imprinted, as a child, by things like Modesty/Willie, and glommed right onto Storm/Logan (let us not talk of what may be happening these days in Ultimate or elsewhere). Because it is not easy, and is rarer than sex, and failed relationships, and I'm all about the capital P in "Platonic."


§ ita § - Oct 12, 2004 10:53:11 am PDT #9215 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've never heard anyone use this sentence before.

Me! Me!


Polter-Cow - Oct 12, 2004 10:55:23 am PDT #9216 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Me! Me!

We're both Hughes-deprived?

high-fives ita


P.M. Marc - Oct 12, 2004 12:02:24 pm PDT #9217 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I was wondering whether people didn't believe friends-becoming-lovers actually happened in a positive way.

My issue, above and beyond how rare the Platonic is in the media, has more to do with the friend-who-pines-after-the-uninterested-friend getting the Girl/Boy/Other after the Girl/Boy/Other comes to His/Her/Its senses.

Friends-not-becoming-lovers happens so rarely on TV that I feel cheated when they take that type of relationship away.

With, of course, a side of this.


Sassy - Oct 12, 2004 12:17:03 pm PDT #9218 of 10001
'Til we dance away...

Plei is me. I think this idea of coming to your senses puts a lot of pressure on women (maybe it works for men and "nice girls" too, although I haven't put a lot of thought into it) to have feelings for the friend guy. The implication seems to be that if you're not attracted to the person pining for you that you're heartless or bitchy or something. Really, it's ok to not fall in love with your Brian Krakow.