Well, let's be diligent about drift and, per the will-o-the people, adhere to the rule as it now stands until September 20.
It's a real burden being right so often.
Mal ,'Bushwhacked'
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Trudy Booth - Jul 25, 2003 7:28:59 pm PDT #2152 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
DavidS - Jul 25, 2003 7:31:18 pm PDT #2153 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
What do you object to in the rule as it is now worded?
There's a difference between the wording of the spoiler policy and the history of its enforcement. The current situation is sort of like a crackown on pot-smoking laws. The laws have always been on the books, but there's been more latitude in the past. There's been an insistence on the letter of the law and it's stifled things. That's just my opinion. But even in legal decisions, past precedent counts. And it's not superfluous to note that historically we've discussed cast changes during the summer.
My only standard really on this is that I think the current situation stifles discussion. What the hell are people supposed to talk about on the Angel thread during the summer anyway if they can't discuss possible storylines for the next year? The post-mortem has already happened, and the show is clearly going in a new direction. I want to talk about that direction in the show thread.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 25, 2003 7:31:44 pm PDT #2154 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
OK, I was about to do a huge spout on the word "drift", except, of course, it's nowhere in Hec's post.
IOW - WHAT HEC SAID!
§ ita § - Jul 25, 2003 7:32:54 pm PDT #2155 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Brenda's point is sound -- this is grandfathered bullshit, isn't it?
I'd say that's the prime thing up for debate.
Trudy Booth - Jul 25, 2003 7:32:56 pm PDT #2156 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
So let's watch the drift and follow the letter of the law.
Trudy Booth - Jul 25, 2003 7:34:27 pm PDT #2157 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
You know, not EVERY concesus decision was "bullshit".
The concensus left the possibility for bullshit and hence the now voting -- but we happily managed by concensus for quite some time.
§ ita § - Jul 25, 2003 7:37:58 pm PDT #2158 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Trudy, you're using the word "bullshit" more judgmentally than I am.
Like I said upthread "bullshit consensus" equates to me as "decision making before voting came about".
That's all. Someone used the term, it made me smile, and I really had thought the first level meaning had been beaten out of it.
Since it still seems to be bothering you, I'll drop it.
It just had a pithy feel ....
DavidS - Jul 25, 2003 7:38:26 pm PDT #2159 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
You know, not EVERY concesus decision was "bullshit".
True dat.
I don't see a solution that's going to make everybody happy and that's the way it is in grownupland sometimes. I'd rather have the change and I'll vote that way. If the vote goes the other way I'll just do what I've been doing. It's an imposition on one portion of the population whichever way it goes. My feeling is that the status quo inconveniences a larger population, and hence the move to change it.
Elena - Jul 25, 2003 7:39:15 pm PDT #2160 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.
ita, the problem with the term is that some people use it as shorthand for 'not valid decision'. You use it as shorthand for 'something we decided early on'.
Trudy Booth - Jul 25, 2003 7:41:09 pm PDT #2161 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Pith is hard to let go of, thank you, ita. t claps manfully on shoulder