Angel ,'Chosen'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
You know, not EVERY concesus decision was "bullshit".
True dat.
I don't see a solution that's going to make everybody happy and that's the way it is in grownupland sometimes. I'd rather have the change and I'll vote that way. If the vote goes the other way I'll just do what I've been doing. It's an imposition on one portion of the population whichever way it goes. My feeling is that the status quo inconveniences a larger population, and hence the move to change it.
ita, the problem with the term is that some people use it as shorthand for 'not valid decision'. You use it as shorthand for 'something we decided early on'.
Pith is hard to let go of, thank you, ita. t claps manfully on shoulder
It's moot now, Elena. I've dropped it. Others can use it as they see semantically fit.
I think the consensuses (consenses?) were all suspect in validity (due to lack of rigour), but not, inherently, the decisions themselves.
Elena, those terms aren't mutually exclusive. And, yes, I'm being snarky, cause a lot of people feel the current spoiler policy was "not a valid decision" the way it came about. Hence, the vote.
And, yes, I'm being snarky, cause a lot of people feel the current spoiler policy was "not a valid decision" the way it came about. Hence, the vote.
Ken, you brought up the fact that the rule was one of our old "bullshit consensus" decisions. That reminded me of the fact that we had a discussion and vote just two months ago on this very issue - many people felt strongly that we did not want decisions made under the old ways to be suddenly declared "not valid decisions." The decision not to reopen this stuff for the time being was voted on - not bs consensus, not midnight fiat, not invalid in any way. I don't see how this discussion wouldn't fall under that. Can you explain to me why it a) was not a valid decision and b) shouldn't fall under the grandfathering we just voted in?
Brenda's point is sound -- this is grandfathered bullshit, isn't it?
No, I don't think so. It wasn't ever discussed or talked about, and we have already amended the thing that happened with Cross Show discussion, so there's that p. word again.
Wasn't ever discussed or talked about? Who wrote it then? Why is in the FAQ?
Do we have any access to our archives somewhere? I can't get in to WX, as usual.
It wasn't ever discussed or talked about
Who made the decision?
It wasn't ever discussed or talked about, and we have already amended the thing that happened with Cross Show discussion, so there's that p. word again.
Plei, p. word? I don't know what that would be.