Joyce: Dawn, you be good. Xander: We will. Just gonna play with some matches, run with scissors, take candy from some guy, I don't know his name.

'Beneath You'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Apr 23, 2011 4:19:18 pm PDT #4927 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Where are you getting that?

From everybody saying how skeeved they were by interracial porn. It's such a common kink and I don't think you can impute the racism in it.

As for judgy, I am judgy about the racism I think is inherent in the interracial cuckolding kink

...though you disagree. Is a preference for latino men, or asian women equally skeevy? I just don't think the myriad of associations that go into any individuals sexuality need to pass that kind of scrutiny. I don't think every white woman into black men has Jungle Fever (sorry, Spike).

Half your point is defensiveness,

I threw that in there. But mostly because there are a lot of outlier sexual interests on this board that wouldn't pass somebody else's skeeve test. So my philosophy is not to be so judgy about what floats a boat.

Different people like different shit and you can't presume to know why.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 23, 2011 4:19:28 pm PDT #4928 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That's really not the dynamic I've encountered in the interracial cuckolding. The husbands seem to be fairly often in chastity belts undergoing orgasm denial, and they do participate, in order to clean up after where the black guy just went.

Huh, that's a new one on me. Something that specific is common enough to be a big new trend? (Admittedly it's not as if I go looking into the details of straight sexuality much; I'm still mystified by the KISS style heels that are apparently such a turn on.)


Cass - Apr 23, 2011 4:28:09 pm PDT #4929 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

From everybody saying how skeeved they were by interracial porn.

Interracial isn't the skeeve. It's the cuckolding of a white guy by a specifically black guy. For me.

They've got a right to get their yayas there so long as it's all of age and consensual, but, yeah, I find it totally skeevy and I judge them.

I also judge people with swastika tattoos. They've got the right. But I judge.


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:29:09 pm PDT #4930 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Interracial isn't the skeeve. It's the cuckolding of a white guy by a specifically black guy. For me.

Ditto.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 4:30:01 pm PDT #4931 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is a preference for latino men, or asian women equally skeevy?

In the cuckolding kink, or in general? I don't know how they'd work Asian women into it, although I can imagine Latino men slotting into a similar position, but without the historical trappings of animal sexuality, so it wouldn't translate particularly well.

For the record, nobody said they were uncomfortable with interracial porn but me. So it's me you're talking to with the first part of the statement. And I haven't defended any of my kinks, so it's not me you're talking to with the second statement. So I'm not sure why you strung them together like it's one position being held by anyone here. Or why you didn't just call me out and leave everyone else out of it.

And, yeah, as long as porn makes me feel objectified, I'm going to feel uncomfortable. I think that's perfectly reasonable behaviour.


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:43:12 pm PDT #4932 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But not objectified just as a woman? Because doesn't porn with women in it generally do that?


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 4:52:50 pm PDT #4933 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't mind if someone wants to have sex with me because I'm female. I do mind if they want to because I'm black.


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:54:01 pm PDT #4934 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That's fair. I think that's different than objectification.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 4:55:56 pm PDT #4935 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If someone wants to have sex with me because I'm black, I feel objectified. That doesn't make sense? What word would you use?


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:58:29 pm PDT #4936 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Fetishization, I guess.