Spike: Or maybe Captain Forehead was feeling a little less special. Didn't like me crashing his exclusive club, another vampire with a soul in the world. Angel: You're not in the world, Casper.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Apr 23, 2011 4:59:42 pm PDT #4937 of 30001

I interrupt this discussion with PROGRESS! And WAR DRAMA! [link]

Or, you know, my cats being PITAs.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 5:07:43 pm PDT #4938 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From quick googling, I don't see any indication that objectification isn't what I'm feeling. It matches the definition, including that of sexual objectification in wikipedia. Which has a subsection of fetishisation, but that doesn't make my usage wrong.


erikaj - Apr 23, 2011 5:23:47 pm PDT #4939 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

I have run into quite a few guys with like, "naughty attendant"-style fantasies. More so, lately. (Is there a new wheelchair porn? On second thought, never tell me.) Am torn. On the one hand, it's not all bad seeing a liability turned into a draw...on the other, there's stuff at play that might be revolting if I looked at it closely.(I haven't done it because I'm not the kind to make it with a stranger...if someone I already liked wanted to, maybe I would. I'm also concerned that an AB person with a fantasy like that would be unprepared for the appearance of a real impaired body as opposed to Porn Chick in Wheelchair.


sarameg - Apr 23, 2011 5:38:01 pm PDT #4940 of 30001

Loki is still hanging out on the deck, and I'm hoping paint dries enough before the lightening I see brings rain.


DavidS - Apr 23, 2011 5:38:29 pm PDT #4941 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Okay, then, sorry I lumped people specifically skeeved by the cuckolding element in with ita's more general objection.

And, yeah, as long as porn makes me feel objectified, I'm going to feel uncomfortable. I think that's perfectly reasonable behaviour.

Fair enough.

So I'm not sure why you strung them together like it's one position being held by anyone here.

There was a recurring tone of "ewwww" which just pings me. Though as Matt noted, people can and will draw the line wherever they want.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 5:45:34 pm PDT #4942 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's the interracial element in the cuckolding, not the cuckolding in the interracial, if that makes a difference.

At least, for me. I couldn't care less about a cuckolding kink, and made uncomfortable by an interracial kink, but feel flat out offended by the dynamics the interracial cuckolding kink depends on and perpetuates.

Then again, don't do it to me (which isn't possible), and I don't have to look, so it's all good.


meara - Apr 23, 2011 6:16:47 pm PDT #4943 of 30001

I, like Teppy, hang out with a lot of people who do a lot of weird-ass shit. And on the one hand, I try to be like "hey, whatever floats your boat". OTOH, I am a judgey judgey bitch, and stuff like a "Littles Party" (for people who like to pretend they are like, five years old) skeeves the heck out of me.


Burrell - Apr 23, 2011 6:48:36 pm PDT #4944 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Hi everybody. I've had to skip loads of posts, but I read Beep Me. Still, I'm sure I missed loads. Sending vibes to Typo.

Oh wait...is it mac's birthday? Happy birthday big boy!

Life has been so busy.


Steph L. - Apr 23, 2011 7:48:09 pm PDT #4945 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I, like Teppy, hang out with a lot of people who do a lot of weird-ass shit. And on the one hand, I try to be like "hey, whatever floats your boat". OTOH, I am a judgey judgey bitch, and stuff like a "Littles Party" (for people who like to pretend they are like, five years old) skeeves the heck out of me.

I'm right there with you. (Including the littles thing. We have a friend who's into that, and...it leaves me at a loss for words sometimes. I don't know how to converse with her when she's "being" 5.)

I don't *tell* her it weirds me out, though. If it weirds me out enough, I remove myself from the situation, and I do the same with anything else that weirds me out. I don't tell people to not do something, and they do the same (or, I supposed *don't* do the same) in return.


Cass - Apr 23, 2011 8:20:46 pm PDT #4946 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I don't *tell* her it weirds me out, though. If it weirds me out enough, I remove myself from the situation, and I do the same with anything else that weirds me out. I don't tell people to not do something, and they do the same (or, I supposed *don't* do the same) in return.

Exactly. It's not like you can give her a time out. It's your issue, not hers, in this case.

eta: Which I don't mean to sound ridiculously smart ass. Once you get past consensual (and adult), people get to do what they want and what turns them on. And while I might judge silently and from very far away, I want the same appearance of respect from others.