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Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:29:09 pm PDT #4930 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Interracial isn't the skeeve. It's the cuckolding of a white guy by a specifically black guy. For me.

Ditto.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 4:30:01 pm PDT #4931 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is a preference for latino men, or asian women equally skeevy?

In the cuckolding kink, or in general? I don't know how they'd work Asian women into it, although I can imagine Latino men slotting into a similar position, but without the historical trappings of animal sexuality, so it wouldn't translate particularly well.

For the record, nobody said they were uncomfortable with interracial porn but me. So it's me you're talking to with the first part of the statement. And I haven't defended any of my kinks, so it's not me you're talking to with the second statement. So I'm not sure why you strung them together like it's one position being held by anyone here. Or why you didn't just call me out and leave everyone else out of it.

And, yeah, as long as porn makes me feel objectified, I'm going to feel uncomfortable. I think that's perfectly reasonable behaviour.


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:43:12 pm PDT #4932 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But not objectified just as a woman? Because doesn't porn with women in it generally do that?


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 4:52:50 pm PDT #4933 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't mind if someone wants to have sex with me because I'm female. I do mind if they want to because I'm black.


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:54:01 pm PDT #4934 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That's fair. I think that's different than objectification.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 4:55:56 pm PDT #4935 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If someone wants to have sex with me because I'm black, I feel objectified. That doesn't make sense? What word would you use?


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:58:29 pm PDT #4936 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Fetishization, I guess.


sarameg - Apr 23, 2011 4:59:42 pm PDT #4937 of 30001

I interrupt this discussion with PROGRESS! And WAR DRAMA! [link]

Or, you know, my cats being PITAs.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 5:07:43 pm PDT #4938 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From quick googling, I don't see any indication that objectification isn't what I'm feeling. It matches the definition, including that of sexual objectification in wikipedia. Which has a subsection of fetishisation, but that doesn't make my usage wrong.


erikaj - Apr 23, 2011 5:23:47 pm PDT #4939 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

I have run into quite a few guys with like, "naughty attendant"-style fantasies. More so, lately. (Is there a new wheelchair porn? On second thought, never tell me.) Am torn. On the one hand, it's not all bad seeing a liability turned into a draw...on the other, there's stuff at play that might be revolting if I looked at it closely.(I haven't done it because I'm not the kind to make it with a stranger...if someone I already liked wanted to, maybe I would. I'm also concerned that an AB person with a fantasy like that would be unprepared for the appearance of a real impaired body as opposed to Porn Chick in Wheelchair.