I love Allyson!!!1!
If you want me to leave, you can put your hands on my hot, tight little body and make me.
Spike ,'Get It Done'
The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!
Burrell - Jul 09, 2009 1:13:19 pm PDT #2131 of 4535
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Kevin - Jul 09, 2009 3:09:54 pm PDT #2132 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
I definitely think there's a been a trend towards Joss's work treating characters as objects rather than people. It's something I've noticed, and it took me out of the story of Dollhouse at times.
But at the end of the day, Dollhouse is never going to be a feminist show. I gather season two will move into Finding Power, but mostly I think it's a sick and twisted tale of life without repression, which probably benefits from a bit of Timothy.
Steph L. - Jul 09, 2009 3:11:00 pm PDT #2133 of 4535
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I dunno, I'm going to go with Joss on that one. I might not agree with him on everything, but he's actively donated towards and considers his output from a feminist POV.
Just because a person calls himself a feminist doesn't make him one.
IOW, Joss isn't the feminist he thinks he is.
Kevin - Jul 09, 2009 3:16:37 pm PDT #2134 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Either do I, but I think he did a bunch of work which effected viewpoints and spoke out about a bunch of issues and I think he deserves kudos for that.
erikaj - Jul 09, 2009 3:18:47 pm PDT #2135 of 4535
Always Anti-fascist!
Well, given that broadcast TV gave us the Swan a few years ago, I'm asking "Compared to what?'
Frankenbuddha - Jul 10, 2009 4:20:46 am PDT #2136 of 4535
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I think Joss' biggest problem is he's trying too hard in several different directions (e.g. making some kind of statement on society's treatment of women, pushing the envelope of what can be done in television drama, etc.), that, while not necessarily mutually exclusive, makes for incredibly tricky combination to pull of successfully. When it fails, that way lies anvils and recriminations.
Tim doesn't seem to overthink things too much. He's after the story.
BTW, that "e.g." was correct, right? I always have problems with that vs. "i.e.".
Tom Scola - Jul 10, 2009 4:22:49 am PDT #2137 of 4535
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
BTW, that "e.g." was correct, right? I always have problems with that vs. "i.e.".
"e.g." means "for example", and "i.e." means "as in", so you used "e.g." correctly.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 10, 2009 4:56:48 am PDT #2138 of 4535
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
"e.g." means "for example", and "i.e." means "as in", so you used "e.g." correctly.
Thank you, Tom. Now I know that my memory trick of "i.e." =/= "in example" is the correct one.
Kat - Jul 10, 2009 7:10:39 am PDT #2139 of 4535
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Either do I, but I think he did a bunch of work which effected viewpoints and spoke out about a bunch of issues and I think he deserves kudos for that.
I think, Kevin, as seems to happen on some occasions, you are missing the greater point people are trying to make. I don't really think that just because Joss says, "I love women! I'm totally feminist! I'm almost a woman myself because I'm so sensitive! My sexist show is really feminist because I AM!" makes it so.
Just because he also says he's so gay doesn't actually make him gay or even kinda gay.
I actually find the self-declarative labels as an explanation for things which are offensive really annoying.
Steph L. - Jul 10, 2009 7:12:02 am PDT #2140 of 4535
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I actually find the self-declarative labels as an explanation for things which are offensive really annoying.
You mean, "It's okay, because I'm a FEMINIST! Really!" ?
'Cause I am right there with you.