Anybody else getting a Borg Queen vibe off of Shirley's character (and not just because of the red hair)? She seems to have a personality along with self-awareness. I wonder if she's Skynet in T-1000 form.
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Frankenbuddha - Sep 08, 2008 5:23:01 pm PDT #4521 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Vortex - Sep 08, 2008 7:42:50 pm PDT #4522 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
LOVE Shirley Manson. I wasn't paying attention in the credits at the beginning, so it was a nice surprise. She is going to be AWESOME.
Polter-Cow - Sep 08, 2008 8:13:20 pm PDT #4523 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
What is the title of that song in the opening?
I don't know, but it seems to be a new Shirley Manson song! Which is sweet.
Ooh, it appears to be a cover of a Grateful Dead song. Well, not exclusively.
Josh Friedman says it was done by Shirley and Bear McCreary.
And here's Bear's post about the song.
Theodosia - Sep 09, 2008 2:56:42 am PDT #4524 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
It was a nice song.
Loved it when Cameron stapled her face back together.
The whole hour held me rapt, which I wasn't expecting -- I only turned it on after The Closer ended and intended to watch just the teaser while I finished my snack.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 09, 2008 3:03:29 am PDT #4525 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
The whole hour held me rapt, which I wasn't expecting
This. So much this. Nary a wasted move in the entire thing. And some nifty set up for the FBI guy (totally cannot remember his name). Obviously, he has a part to play that the machines want him to, as the previews would also seem to indicate. I suspect he's going to "make a deal with the devil" and not even know it until it's too late.
sumi - Sep 09, 2008 5:03:21 am PDT #4526 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Yeah, that was one intense hour of tv . . . loved it. It was HILARIOUS when Shirley Manson morphed out of the urinal.
And Evil!Summer was just rocking.
SailAweigh - Sep 09, 2008 5:03:39 am PDT #4527 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Shirley Manson, baby!!!!
Ha! I thought she looked familiar. She was good.
I watched, despite the fact I didn't see anything past about the third/fourth episode of last season, so I am woefully unknowledgable about what has been happening.
My question is that if Cameron was good, again, why did she step on Sarah to make her scream? Doesn't sound like the actions of a nice protector. The thought that being smushed by two trucks reprogrammed her just doesn't follow. I think the "termination override" is a false command planted by the other Terminator until he's got something he wants and then he'll set Cameron back onto John.
Theodosia - Sep 09, 2008 5:12:28 am PDT #4528 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
It's definitely supposed to be ambiguous -- when and if Cameron flipped the "good" switch during that time or if she was just cleverly faking. We-the-audience are in the exact same situation as the Connors -- did she really change? How stupid was John being to try resetting her chip? (Plenty, I'd say.)
tiggy - Sep 09, 2008 5:26:17 am PDT #4529 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
I, personally, don't think she was good at any point before John took the chip out. i think she made a decision to override the termination program once he reloaded the chip and she went live. the question definitely becomes why and will it last.
Josh Friedman has stated he has no intention of exploring Cameron's "humanity" and wants to concentrate on how a machine would adapt to our world. so i don't think she's grown affectionate for John. she may just be biding her time...
Glamcookie - Sep 09, 2008 5:45:53 am PDT #4530 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
I enjoyed the Cameron, John, Sarah storyline. Manson, NSM, though she definitely has the right look. She's always been a little creepy looking (IMO) but she is getting more odd-looking with age.