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I, personally, don't think she was good at any point before John took the chip out. i think she made a decision to override the termination program once he reloaded the chip and she went live. the question definitely becomes why and will it last.
Josh Friedman has stated he has no intention of exploring Cameron's "humanity" and wants to concentrate on how a machine would adapt to our world. so i don't think she's grown affectionate for John. she may just be biding her time...
I enjoyed the Cameron, John, Sarah storyline. Manson, NSM, though she definitely has the right look. She's always been a little creepy looking (IMO) but she is getting more odd-looking with age.
Josh Friedman has stated he has no intention of exploring Cameron's "humanity"
Well, Joss Whedon never had any intention of exploring (unsouled) vampires' "humanity" either (or so I swear I remember reading back in the day), but it happened anyway.
i think she made a decision to override the termination program once he reloaded the chip and she went live.
I don't think there was any "decision" about it - John reprogrammed the chip to override her default orders. If he'd done it wrong, she would have killed him the moment she woke up.
But apparently terminators are not pure emotionless machines. Cameron told Sarah "not to let him do that again if she ever turned bad again". And Shirley Manson seemed angry.
Emotion would definitely seem to be behind Manson killing that mouthy subordinate. If she thought he was going to become a problem for her plans, terminating him in the corporate sense would have resulted in a lot less police attention than an employee going missing or turning up dead in the men's room.
I think the former could be part of the programming John did to the chip (either then or in the future). The latter definitely seemed to indicate a personality and intent, as opposed to programming.
Ew. Does FOX's marketing department recruit from sex offender registries? Because, ew.
interesting observation from a poster at TWoP:
for all we know, she's been manually overriding her 'kill John Connor' programming this entire time, and the explosion merely interfered with her ability to control herself.
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John didn't fix the chip. I don't think Cameron was "fixed". She just went off the script at the end. She is no longer Terminator-reprogrammed-as-protector, but rather Terminator-who-chose-to-be-good.
Which, upon rewatch, I know they stretched out that "promise" scene for tension, but maybe there was more to the delay in her promising. She immediately says no, before the command to terminate appears, but won't promise until after the command is overridden. Like she didn't *want* to kill John, hence the "no", but couldn't promise until she'd made sure she wouldn't bump into any unsavory commands.
Ew. Does FOX's marketing department recruit from sex offender registries? Because, ew.
at least she's got arm(s) and a gun to defend herself this time.
I also noticed that before Weaver fully morphed from urinal to her human form, when she was still all silver she had a rather large rack that would never have fit inside that white jacket.