'Shells'
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What is the title of that song in the opening?
I don't know, but it seems to be a new Shirley Manson song! Which is sweet.
Ooh, it appears to be a cover of a Grateful Dead song. Well, not exclusively.
Josh Friedman says it was done by Shirley and Bear McCreary.
And here's Bear's post about the song.
It was a nice song.
Loved it when Cameron stapled her face back together.
The whole hour held me rapt, which I wasn't expecting -- I only turned it on after The Closer ended and intended to watch just the teaser while I finished my snack.
The whole hour held me rapt, which I wasn't expecting
This. So much this. Nary a wasted move in the entire thing. And some nifty set up for the FBI guy (totally cannot remember his name). Obviously, he has a part to play that the machines want him to, as the previews would also seem to indicate. I suspect he's going to "make a deal with the devil" and not even know it until it's too late.
Yeah, that was one intense hour of tv . . . loved it. It was HILARIOUS when Shirley Manson morphed out of the urinal.
And Evil!Summer was just rocking.
Shirley Manson, baby!!!!
Ha! I thought she looked familiar. She was good.
I watched, despite the fact I didn't see anything past about the third/fourth episode of last season, so I am woefully unknowledgable about what has been happening.
My question is that if Cameron was good, again, why did she step on Sarah to make her scream? Doesn't sound like the actions of a nice protector. The thought that being smushed by two trucks reprogrammed her just doesn't follow. I think the "termination override" is a false command planted by the other Terminator until he's got something he wants and then he'll set Cameron back onto John.
It's definitely supposed to be ambiguous -- when and if Cameron flipped the "good" switch during that time or if she was just cleverly faking. We-the-audience are in the exact same situation as the Connors -- did she really change? How stupid was John being to try resetting her chip? (Plenty, I'd say.)
I, personally, don't think she was good at any point before John took the chip out. i think she made a decision to override the termination program once he reloaded the chip and she went live. the question definitely becomes why and will it last.
Josh Friedman has stated he has no intention of exploring Cameron's "humanity" and wants to concentrate on how a machine would adapt to our world. so i don't think she's grown affectionate for John. she may just be biding her time...
I enjoyed the Cameron, John, Sarah storyline. Manson, NSM, though she definitely has the right look. She's always been a little creepy looking (IMO) but she is getting more odd-looking with age.
Josh Friedman has stated he has no intention of exploring Cameron's "humanity"
Well, Joss Whedon never had any intention of exploring (unsouled) vampires' "humanity" either (or so I swear I remember reading back in the day), but it happened anyway.
i think she made a decision to override the termination program once he reloaded the chip and she went live.
I don't think there was any "decision" about it - John reprogrammed the chip to override her default orders. If he'd done it wrong, she would have killed him the moment she woke up.