Giles! I accidentally killed Spike. That's okay, right?

Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Liese S. - Sep 02, 2012 3:10:28 pm PDT #20999 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Why is Colin in the TARDIS?


Typo Boy - Sep 02, 2012 7:58:56 pm PDT #21000 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Dr. Who - Only one thing to add to other comments. Why did Oswin felt the need to justify her first love being "Nina", as "I was going through a phase"? According to Captain Jack, the human race moved beyond narrow little categories when it came to sex.

Lost Girl: After being taken by the Norn, Dyson failed to carefully consider the exact meaning the words of the prophecy that was guiding his behavior. Bo actually did ask him exactly what they wolf spirit said, but I guess there were too many big words for her to notice that nothing in the prophecy said Dyson should take point.

Also no one except Bo thought of asking for the exact words? Not Kiera who managed billions in the human world and was Queen in the world of the Fae where Queen is not just a symbolic position? Not Hale who is one of the heirs to a rich and powerful Fae family? Not Trick who was once a King himself, who makes magic by writing things down that come true? Trick was not conscious of the importance of discovering the exact wording of the prophecy they were using as a guide to their next move?

I know Lost Girl is not the greatest example every of the screenwriter's art, but this particular plot hole seems a bit extreme even for this show.

Also Kiera chooses as her last words to give Dyson advice from a thousand self-help books?


Jon B. - Sep 03, 2012 6:18:57 pm PDT #21001 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Why did Oswin felt the need to justify her first love being "Nina", as "I was going through a phase"? According to Captain Jack, the human race moved beyond narrow little categories when it came to sex.

That pinged me a bit as well, but what has that got to do with Captain Jack? Do we know what time Oswin is from? Jack was from the 51st century, correct?


Typo Boy - Sep 03, 2012 6:23:14 pm PDT #21002 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I sort of assumed that Oswin was from then or later or that at any rate once we get much beyond the 21st century that particular prejudice disappears.


DCJensen - Sep 03, 2012 10:44:16 pm PDT #21003 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I guess it's possible to manually just pick up and move the TARDIS instead of making it transport the usual way? I probably weighs a lot more than it looks though!

It can, and has been, moved by various peoples/creatures/creatures who are also people.


Jon B. - Sep 04, 2012 4:15:04 am PDT #21004 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I sort of assumed that Oswin was from then or later

Why did you assume that? Was there a reference I missed?


§ ita § - Sep 04, 2012 5:24:00 am PDT #21005 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

that at any rate once we get much beyond the 21st century that particular prejudice disappears

And I don't get why you assumed this bit. We have no idea when it stopped being an issue.


Kate P. - Sep 04, 2012 6:44:06 am PDT #21006 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I really hate that "I'm giving you up for your own good" thing Amy was pulling, So so much.

Ugh, yes. I gotta say, though, it seemed pretty consistent with Amy's character. But then again, she's probably my least favorite character on the show, so I'm perfectly willing to believe she's capable of crap like that.

I mostly liked the episode, and the reveal about Oswin worked well for me -- obvious in retrospect, but I totally did not see it coming, and I really felt for her. And although I am also pretty tired of the Daleks, at least wiping the Doctor from their collective memory is an interesting twist on their story.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 04, 2012 6:45:10 am PDT #21007 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm still skeptical of the "everybody's grown beyond all that sexual orientation nonsense" premise of the 51st century. I can see society advancing to the point that no one cares who anyone is attracted to (except in a do-you-like-me-or-not? respect), but I don't think 3000 years is enough for major changes in how human beings are actually wired.


Typo Boy - Sep 04, 2012 6:48:13 am PDT #21008 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And I don't get why you assumed this bit. We have no idea when it stopped being an issue.

I can't defend the assumption. Head cannon.