River ,'The Message'
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Why did Oswin felt the need to justify her first love being "Nina", as "I was going through a phase"? According to Captain Jack, the human race moved beyond narrow little categories when it came to sex.
That pinged me a bit as well, but what has that got to do with Captain Jack? Do we know what time Oswin is from? Jack was from the 51st century, correct?
I sort of assumed that Oswin was from then or later or that at any rate once we get much beyond the 21st century that particular prejudice disappears.
I guess it's possible to manually just pick up and move the TARDIS instead of making it transport the usual way? I probably weighs a lot more than it looks though!
It can, and has been, moved by various peoples/creatures/creatures who are also people.
I sort of assumed that Oswin was from then or later
Why did you assume that? Was there a reference I missed?
that at any rate once we get much beyond the 21st century that particular prejudice disappears
And I don't get why you assumed this bit. We have no idea when it stopped being an issue.
I really hate that "I'm giving you up for your own good" thing Amy was pulling, So so much.
Ugh, yes. I gotta say, though, it seemed pretty consistent with Amy's character. But then again, she's probably my least favorite character on the show, so I'm perfectly willing to believe she's capable of crap like that.
I mostly liked the episode, and the reveal about Oswin worked well for me -- obvious in retrospect, but I totally did not see it coming, and I really felt for her. And although I am also pretty tired of the Daleks, at least wiping the Doctor from their collective memory is an interesting twist on their story.
I'm still skeptical of the "everybody's grown beyond all that sexual orientation nonsense" premise of the 51st century. I can see society advancing to the point that no one cares who anyone is attracted to (except in a do-you-like-me-or-not? respect), but I don't think 3000 years is enough for major changes in how human beings are actually wired.
And I don't get why you assumed this bit. We have no idea when it stopped being an issue.
I can't defend the assumption. Head cannon.
I'm still skeptical of the "everybody's grown beyond all that sexual orientation nonsense" premise of the 51st century.
I think it is the categorization rather than the attraction that is changed. That is I think the idea is that there are men who are only attracted to men, but it is just like being attracted only to redheads - personal characteristic rather than a category. My headcanon on this that is what CJ mean't when he referred to "silly categories".
Now I have this image of Buffistas on pirate ships firing at each other with their heads.