that at any rate once we get much beyond the 21st century that particular prejudice disappears
And I don't get why you assumed this bit. We have no idea when it stopped being an issue.
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that at any rate once we get much beyond the 21st century that particular prejudice disappears
And I don't get why you assumed this bit. We have no idea when it stopped being an issue.
I really hate that "I'm giving you up for your own good" thing Amy was pulling, So so much.
Ugh, yes. I gotta say, though, it seemed pretty consistent with Amy's character. But then again, she's probably my least favorite character on the show, so I'm perfectly willing to believe she's capable of crap like that.
I mostly liked the episode, and the reveal about Oswin worked well for me -- obvious in retrospect, but I totally did not see it coming, and I really felt for her. And although I am also pretty tired of the Daleks, at least wiping the Doctor from their collective memory is an interesting twist on their story.
I'm still skeptical of the "everybody's grown beyond all that sexual orientation nonsense" premise of the 51st century. I can see society advancing to the point that no one cares who anyone is attracted to (except in a do-you-like-me-or-not? respect), but I don't think 3000 years is enough for major changes in how human beings are actually wired.
And I don't get why you assumed this bit. We have no idea when it stopped being an issue.
I can't defend the assumption. Head cannon.
I'm still skeptical of the "everybody's grown beyond all that sexual orientation nonsense" premise of the 51st century.
I think it is the categorization rather than the attraction that is changed. That is I think the idea is that there are men who are only attracted to men, but it is just like being attracted only to redheads - personal characteristic rather than a category. My headcanon on this that is what CJ mean't when he referred to "silly categories".
Now I have this image of Buffistas on pirate ships firing at each other with their heads.
I admit to being a bit baffled by the Pond/Williams breakup. Amy kicked Rory out of the house and they went through all the effort to get divorce papers drawn up, and never in all that did she ever say anything like, "You'd be better off without me, you can go be a dad with another woman"? She never said a thing about why?
There's 2 problems there: first, as above, that's a lot of time passing in which they never have an honest conversation. Are they that bad at communication, or are we to assume that Amy was that traumatized by the discovery of her infertility that she never communicated it with her husband?
Second, it ignores entirely the possibility of having a child through any other means. Just because Amy thinks she can't have Rory's biological child, doesn't mean they can't have children together. It makes Amy in particular look like an idiot, even though I appreciate that discovering her reproductive system had been severely messed with would be really traumatic.
So my takeaway from the Pond/Williams near-divorce is that Amy is kind of an idiot. A sympathetic one, and the scene in which they reconcile is very moving, but argh.
never in all that did she ever say anything like, "You'd be better off without me, you can go be a dad with another woman"?
I think she knew Rory and that if she said that, he'd never leave. Infertility can mess with a person's head pretty badly, especially considering how she became infertile. I guess she thought she was damaged goods and that she was doing the kindest thing for Rory. Not at all wise, but I understand it.
It makes Amy in particular look like an idiot, even though I appreciate that discovering her reproductive system had been severely messed with would be really traumatic.
If only we ever saw Amy actually dealing with (even for like 2 minutes) anything that happened to her last year. She was kidnapped, mentally violated, lost her daughter and never got to raise her, and now we find out that she was also physically violated in some way--and this is never really addressed. Instead we get weird almost-divorces that appear out of nowhere and are solved in the length of an episode.
I always feel weirdly protective of Amy's character because Karen Gillan does a great job, but Moffat keeps making her seem like she's borderline insane. I don't blame Amy the character for anything because the writing is so obviously bad. And I know that it started last season, but I still really hate the fact that she became a model. That doesn't seem like anything Amelia Pond would be interested in.