FF: I just watched. I'm definitely liking this show, although I accidentally let last week's roll off the Tivo.

I'm glad the Nazi's initial Kabbalah thing was a red herring. I also am mildly amused at how they got played by verifying something that had absolutely nothing to do with his information; that happened after the blackout.

Anyway, predestination is such a funky concept. Even with all the different scenarios for what people saw, I think it's interesting how people would react if they saw something they thought to be a true prediction.

I mean, I'm the sort of person that dances across plazas in front of security cameras because the predictable flow of foot traffic unsettles me. I always think of Koyaanisqatsi.

So I think I am the type of person that would try to disrupt any prediction of my future, good or bad, just to be contrary. And surely there are some of those out there in the show world.

Inevitability. It's interesting.

re: Fringe.

I missed most of last season. What was the testing Olivia underwent as a child?

So I think I am the type of person that would try to disrupt any prediction of my future, good or bad, just to be contrary.

Me too, Liese. It surprises me when people just accept what they perceive as their fate. (In reality as in fiction.)

I missed most of last season. What was the testing Olivia underwent as a child?

They gave her (and many other children) experimental drugs to enhance their psychic powers, if I recall.

Also, if John Cho dies from getting shot in the chest? All he has to do is wear a bulletproof vest on that day.

I want to see people trying to circumvent their fate and fate laughing at them. Or something. Not six months of people accepting the inevitable.

Zombies! Zombies on Smallville.

All he has to do is wear a bulletproof vest on that day.

Unless it's armor piercing rounds or a freak shot that hits near the armpit...or whatever it takes to make destiny work.

I hate the new Kate chick on Sanctuary. I don't like the writing and I think the actress is flat.

I'm assuming that he saw a body but didn't get a DNA test.

I'm assuming he got a DNA test using quickie-magic-TV-science. I thought I remembered that he had previously seen the remains but that they were unidentifiable.

Not sure what to make of Zoey saying she saw Demetri, though. Is she not to be believed? Or is this our first example of variant futures?

My take is that she saw *someone* in the distance and assumed it was Demitri. We couldn't make out the figures in her flash so why should she?

I want to see people trying to circumvent their fate and fate laughing at them. Or something. Not six months of people accepting the inevitable.

Indeed. I really wanted Demitri to arrest pothead-future-customs-agent guy.

Unless it's armor piercing rounds or a freak shot that hits near the armpit...or whatever it takes to make destiny work.

Sure. I'm just saying, we don't have any proof that destiny would work that way. Or that it is destiny.

The little things starting to come together--I'm not sure why Demetri isn't above and beyond the other characters trying to make a different future. Olivia too--she seemed a bit resigned when she met her man. But maybe it's too soon for all of that. Are we a week in yet? But I do see why Mark (Mike? Mr Benford) is placing so much on the accurate depiction of his, and he might not want to fuck with other people's visions as much.

Except for, you know, the boozing thing.

But I it was being accepted that I'd been shot in the chest on a certain day a flak jacket wouldn't help me sleep much. I can't think what would. Currently I'm viewing their futures like the Supernatural episode where they tried to live lives different from what Chuck was prophesying, and how even when you thought you succeeded, you failed.