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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DawnK - Oct 09, 2009 8:52:44 am PDT #10258 of 30001
giraffe mode

This is why it's bad to watch TV when you have a degree in something. Admittedly, I got my wildlife management degree in the early 80’s but the stats and graphs that they Googled? Threw me out of the story and made me rant for at least 30 minutes. Seriously? Monthly bird census totals on one species, especially one as widespread as crows????? Seriously? There’s like 40 species of crows. The Audubon Society Christmas Bird Count takes weeks to publish, even with the tech we have now, because they have to have actual people counting the birds. They might get some of the info from the BTO but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a database that generates a by-month by-species count with graphs. Believe me... it would have come in handy when I was doing my senior thesis on bird populations in So Cal. Clearly I have issues with this… I should just let it go but it was an epic wildlife fail!


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2009 9:32:04 am PDT #10259 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wondered what you get if you googled worldwide crow population, and the current answer is lots of posts about last night's FF episode, and 1 article about crows on the first page. 31 different types of crows, everywhere but New Zealand, I have now learnt. And that's a site about hunting crows.

I love the idea of self-tabulating and graphing data. It's very CSI-like, you know, like mass spectrometer results that come with pictures.


DawnK - Oct 09, 2009 10:13:28 am PDT #10260 of 30001
giraffe mode

IIRC there's 40 species of "true" crows - 103 in the family Corvidae. Man my brain retains the stupidest stuff - it also retained the scientific names for the grey fox (urocyon cinereoargentus), Eastern red fox (vulpes fulvus), and that elephants have approx 21 teeth but not to remember to grab my blackberry before I left the house this morning. Stoopid brain. See I can't let it go..I need to get over myself!


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2009 10:14:18 am PDT #10261 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe there are only 31 worth hunting. I'm just reciting shit from another site.


le nubian - Oct 09, 2009 10:17:50 am PDT #10262 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Also, how long ago was the blackout? A few days? How in the hell has the Audubon Society conducted a worldwide census of crows and posted the results already?

yes. I could almost believe it if 30 days had gone by, but no.


DawnK - Oct 09, 2009 10:25:42 am PDT #10263 of 30001
giraffe mode

Dude, my info is 26 years old... for all I know, the database they used in FF was spot on and de rigueur for today's population counts. It's just my stupid brain barfing stuff back from the depths of its lameness.


le nubian - Oct 09, 2009 10:42:18 am PDT #10264 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

someone would have to count the birds and notice they were gone. Given the level of human catastrophe, I doubt the crow count would be first on the list.

Also, if you go to the Birdlife International, they have a lot of missing data on bird populations. Your information is not out of date.


Miracleman - Oct 09, 2009 11:47:07 am PDT #10265 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I'll have to read the past whatever or so posts later, I just wanted to pop in and say two things:

1) I'm hooked on FlashForward

2) Thank you, gods, for Hulu!


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2009 12:54:03 pm PDT #10266 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the database they used in FF was spot on

It's not them I was quoting from--it was another URL I've now lost in the shrouds of time.


Polter-Cow - Oct 09, 2009 12:54:23 pm PDT #10267 of 30001
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