Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 10, 2009 5:24:04 am PDT #10278 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Amanda Tapping & Co. managed to entertain me more in the first 5 minutes of last night's Sanctuary premiere than in all two hours of SGUgh.


DCJensen - Oct 10, 2009 5:30:08 am PDT #10279 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

At least this week they answered how LDP was going to stay involved in the series.


Theodosia - Oct 10, 2009 5:35:54 am PDT #10280 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There HAS to be free will involved as the characters go forward -- if you have SIX MONTHS to prepare for the moment when you're going to have the flash forward moment, would you PLAN to be READING the SPORTS PAGE on the JOHN?

Provided that I wasn't in some position that I could actually Do Something about the worldwide catastrophes, I'd be gathering a list of winning lottery numbers for the past 6 months and memorizing them when the FF moment hits.

It would be worth a try, dammit.


Barb - Oct 10, 2009 5:46:06 am PDT #10281 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

I want to see people trying to circumvent their fate and fate laughing at them. Or something. Not six months of people accepting the inevitable.

I liked the different variations of people accepting or not accepting. Like the customs dude hadn't even applied for the job until he had his flash forward and that's what had compelled him to submit the application-- this vision that he'd seen of himself. Which of course then makes me wonder if Demetri's going to wind up busting him for the bong-- because if he can affect that guy's future-- keep him from becoming a customs officer, then maybe he can affect his own future.

This show is a mind fuck in the best of ways.


Kristen - Oct 10, 2009 6:35:31 am PDT #10282 of 30001

Also, if John Cho dies from getting shot in the chest? All he has to do is wear a bulletproof vest on that day.

If he did manage to avoid getting murdered that day, would he step outside the next day and get hit by a bus? I'm not sure yet where the show is going on this.

It's disbelief-suspension-stretching enough that Demitri could get all the strings pulled that quickly to get the grave exhumed, but no mention was made of the super-secret FBI 5-minute DNA test.

I was bothered that he said he wanted to check her remains against the DNA records on file. Because, if you're going to the trouble of having your daughter's remains exhumed, based on the premise that she's alive, maybe you should consider that the records on file were wrong and that was how she was misidentified in the first place. IJS.


meara - Oct 10, 2009 11:31:33 am PDT #10283 of 30001

Ooh, nice catch on the DNA records on file--I was thinking paternity/maternity test vs. the dna in the coffin...but I was also thinking "Maybe she got her leg blown off and that's what they found and shipped back??"

Clearly, his daughter has an identical twin they never knew about

Ahem. I also thought this for about two seconds.

The timeline is also throwing me. Because the sexy sex and the stuff seems to have taken like, a day, and the flying to Germany and badgering seem to have taken much longer...and people still have wounds on their faces from the blackout crashing...and you're still having funerals...but meanwhile the crow census was done and seemed to have data from two months AFTER the blackout?? (Also, if you have to wait very long why not just rent a car and drive from Seattle to LA, rather than wait for the airlines to get going again? Seriously.)


Polter-Cow - Oct 10, 2009 11:38:47 am PDT #10284 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Also, if you have to wait very long why not just rent a car and drive from Seattle to LA

That's if the highways have cleared up from all the accidents.


meara - Oct 10, 2009 11:50:47 am PDT #10285 of 30001

Hmm, point. Though given how many planes would've crashed into them, there can't be much of a functioning runway system left either, I'm guessing...


§ ita § - Oct 10, 2009 12:18:39 pm PDT #10286 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There HAS to be free will involved as the characters go forward -- if you have SIX MONTHS to prepare for the moment when you're going to have the flash forward moment, would you PLAN to be READING the SPORTS PAGE on the JOHN?

Doesn't that argue against free will and not for it?


le nubian - Oct 10, 2009 12:43:49 pm PDT #10287 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

so I read wikipedia about the book - the book that FF tv show is based on - and the plot summary has a whole lot of science in it. I couldn't really understand the resolution of the book. I won't say anything here in case there are actual plot overlaps.

Apparently, one theme of the book is free will and predestination. So I hope we engage in these themes a bit more and soon. I can't take the stupidity.