But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. And you found me broken. It's hard for you.

River ,'Safe'


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§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 5:08:11 am PST #8797 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Gus -- correct me if I'm wrong -- if Tidy can find it, Tidy can fix it. If Tidy can't find it, it's mismatched quotes or mistyped tags. Mismatched quotes we also fix, and mistyped tags will probably be yanked out.

Basically, I think that if we can find it, we can fix it.


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 5:18:37 am PST #8798 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Tidy can find unbalanced quotes but won't fix them beyond containing the problem. Right now, I'm not post-Tidy processing to fix them. Should I? We already own most of the code to do that. Frankly, I don't know why Tidy throws in the towel on that one.

Mistyped tags are found by Tidy. It will report t bogus='100' out as an unknown tag. No one can automatically fix that problem. There is a message I could recast about the condition, and I'll do so.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 5:31:23 am PST #8799 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mistyped tags are found by Tidy.

No need, unless we're revisiting the decision to strip all but a subset of tags.


Jesse - Nov 16, 2004 5:49:16 am PST #8800 of 10000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You guys are so fancy.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 5:56:05 am PST #8801 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Is there any way that the poster could be notified before the post ...posts? Like, if the HTML is too screwy for Tidy, instead of posting, take the poster to the Edit page with a note at the top saying "Your HTML can't be Tidied, you'll have to fix it yourself."

I think I like this idea. I might even extend it to posts that can be tidied. Whenever a post is sumitted, it would get run through Tidy and Gus' TidyPlus©. If they do anything to the post, the user gets sent to a special editpost page with a comment on top that says, "Your post contained some unfoamy html. We tried to fix it for you. Here's what it will look like. Either accept the changes we made, or fix it yourself in the text box below. Loser."


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 6:04:33 am PST #8802 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I think I like this idea. I might even extend it to posts that can be tidied. Whenever a post is sumitted, it would get run through Tidy and Gus' TidyPlus©. If they do anything to the post, the user gets sent to a special editpost page with a comment on top that says, "Your post contained some unfoamy html. We tried to fix it for you. Here's what it will look like. Either accept the changes we made, or fix it yourself in the text box below. Loser."

Doable. We could also add the Tidy error output as a comment in their text.

Any opposed?


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 6:08:06 am PST #8803 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

What does the Tidy error output look like? Is it friendly for non-techies?


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 6:10:12 am PST #8804 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

It looks like this: line 1 column 1 - Error: t bogus is not recognized!
line 1 column 1 - Warning: missing t !DOCTYPE declaration
line 1 column 1 - Warning: discarding unexpected t bogus
line 1 column 1 - Warning: inserting missing 'title' element
Info: Document content looks like HTML 3.2
5 warnings, 1 error were found!


DXMachina - Nov 16, 2004 6:28:20 am PST #8805 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Whenever a post is sumitted, it would get run through Tidy and Gus' TidyPlus©. If they do anything to the post, the user gets sent to a special editpost page

I love this idea.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 6:34:42 am PST #8806 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Gus - The !DOCTYPE, title, and HTML 3.2 error messages are irrelevent to our posts and would befuddle many users. Unless we can limit the error message to only things that "matter", I don't think we should include it.