Now, I can hold a note for a long time...actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after, and the one after that. That's what makes it music.

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DXMachina - Nov 16, 2004 6:28:20 am PST #8805 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Whenever a post is sumitted, it would get run through Tidy and Gus' TidyPlus©. If they do anything to the post, the user gets sent to a special editpost page

I love this idea.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 6:34:42 am PST #8806 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Gus - The !DOCTYPE, title, and HTML 3.2 error messages are irrelevent to our posts and would befuddle many users. Unless we can limit the error message to only things that "matter", I don't think we should include it.


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 6:37:25 am PST #8807 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

t off to research Tidy config options re messages


DXMachina - Nov 16, 2004 6:38:53 am PST #8808 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I agree. Most of the HTML used in posts is pretty simple to debug once you realize there's an error somewhere.


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 7:05:36 am PST #8809 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Just pointing out an implication: This moves the edits back to on-save. If the the work is done on-display, the board will be reading the post while the poster's think time is ticking by.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 7:19:31 am PST #8810 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Personally, I don't think any post is so time-sensitively-urgent that the user can't spend a few moments to fix formatting errors before the tome is posted. But I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.


DCJensen - Nov 16, 2004 10:27:58 am PST #8811 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Watch-and-posts, and quoteathons are the most common times I can think of where posts slap through quickest, but generally? No URLs.

It is indeed hard to come up with a situation whereupon one needs to post bad HTML in a hurry.


Betsy HP - Nov 16, 2004 12:44:01 pm PST #8812 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

Help! Help! I'm dying! What's the Heimlich maneuver again?

[a case in point. Tongue in cheek. I'm fine, really.]


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 2:25:44 pm PST #8813 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If the user gets to see the modded HTML before it's saved, I have no real problem. Coming back on edit and finding something different from what you put in is what I think is wrong.


Liese S. - Nov 16, 2004 5:04:43 pm PST #8814 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Eh. I have mixed feelings on the issue. What if I can't figure out what I've done wrong? Will it never post, causing me to be frustrated and discard my thought? I guess as long as I can accept some kind of "we tried to tidy and this is what we got" I suppose it's not that bad.

On the other side of it, I agree with ita that I'm generally unhappy to come back on edit and find my post not what I posted. Hell, I get grumpy at web editors for sticking their damn name in my damn page, even when I knew up front that would be happening.

Anyway. Mixed feelings. But on the whole, it's a good thing. It's good to be (lowercase) tidy.