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Do you have problems, concerns or recommendations about the technical side of the Phoenix? Air them here. Compliments also welcome.

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Gus - Nov 16, 2004 6:37:25 am PST #8807 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

t off to research Tidy config options re messages


DXMachina - Nov 16, 2004 6:38:53 am PST #8808 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I agree. Most of the HTML used in posts is pretty simple to debug once you realize there's an error somewhere.


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 7:05:36 am PST #8809 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Just pointing out an implication: This moves the edits back to on-save. If the the work is done on-display, the board will be reading the post while the poster's think time is ticking by.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 7:19:31 am PST #8810 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Personally, I don't think any post is so time-sensitively-urgent that the user can't spend a few moments to fix formatting errors before the tome is posted. But I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.


DCJensen - Nov 16, 2004 10:27:58 am PST #8811 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Watch-and-posts, and quoteathons are the most common times I can think of where posts slap through quickest, but generally? No URLs.

It is indeed hard to come up with a situation whereupon one needs to post bad HTML in a hurry.


Betsy HP - Nov 16, 2004 12:44:01 pm PST #8812 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

Help! Help! I'm dying! What's the Heimlich maneuver again?

[a case in point. Tongue in cheek. I'm fine, really.]


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 2:25:44 pm PST #8813 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If the user gets to see the modded HTML before it's saved, I have no real problem. Coming back on edit and finding something different from what you put in is what I think is wrong.


Liese S. - Nov 16, 2004 5:04:43 pm PST #8814 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Eh. I have mixed feelings on the issue. What if I can't figure out what I've done wrong? Will it never post, causing me to be frustrated and discard my thought? I guess as long as I can accept some kind of "we tried to tidy and this is what we got" I suppose it's not that bad.

On the other side of it, I agree with ita that I'm generally unhappy to come back on edit and find my post not what I posted. Hell, I get grumpy at web editors for sticking their damn name in my damn page, even when I knew up front that would be happening.

Anyway. Mixed feelings. But on the whole, it's a good thing. It's good to be (lowercase) tidy.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 5:19:58 pm PST #8815 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

What if I can't figure out what I've done wrong? Will it never post, causing me to be frustrated and discard my thought?

Not at all. With my suggestion, Tidy and Gus' enhancements will suggest a correction and display what the auto-corrected text will look like. It's up to you to accept the changes and hit post, or try to fix it yourself. The only alternatives I've seen are a) have Tidy, etc. fix the post and post it without any intermediate input from the poster, or b) do nothing and have the malformed html post as is (the current state).


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 5:25:36 pm PST #8816 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The tidy alternatives proposed are -- have it fix it in the database or have it saved as entered, and fix it every time it's displayed (with a note visible only to the post owner).