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Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 5:56:05 am PST #8801 of 10000
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Is there any way that the poster could be notified before the post ...posts? Like, if the HTML is too screwy for Tidy, instead of posting, take the poster to the Edit page with a note at the top saying "Your HTML can't be Tidied, you'll have to fix it yourself."

I think I like this idea. I might even extend it to posts that can be tidied. Whenever a post is sumitted, it would get run through Tidy and Gus' TidyPlus©. If they do anything to the post, the user gets sent to a special editpost page with a comment on top that says, "Your post contained some unfoamy html. We tried to fix it for you. Here's what it will look like. Either accept the changes we made, or fix it yourself in the text box below. Loser."


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 6:04:33 am PST #8802 of 10000
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I think I like this idea. I might even extend it to posts that can be tidied. Whenever a post is sumitted, it would get run through Tidy and Gus' TidyPlus©. If they do anything to the post, the user gets sent to a special editpost page with a comment on top that says, "Your post contained some unfoamy html. We tried to fix it for you. Here's what it will look like. Either accept the changes we made, or fix it yourself in the text box below. Loser."

Doable. We could also add the Tidy error output as a comment in their text.

Any opposed?


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 6:08:06 am PST #8803 of 10000
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What does the Tidy error output look like? Is it friendly for non-techies?


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 6:10:12 am PST #8804 of 10000
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It looks like this: line 1 column 1 - Error: t bogus is not recognized!
line 1 column 1 - Warning: missing t !DOCTYPE declaration
line 1 column 1 - Warning: discarding unexpected t bogus
line 1 column 1 - Warning: inserting missing 'title' element
Info: Document content looks like HTML 3.2
5 warnings, 1 error were found!


DXMachina - Nov 16, 2004 6:28:20 am PST #8805 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Whenever a post is sumitted, it would get run through Tidy and Gus' TidyPlus©. If they do anything to the post, the user gets sent to a special editpost page

I love this idea.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 6:34:42 am PST #8806 of 10000
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Gus - The !DOCTYPE, title, and HTML 3.2 error messages are irrelevent to our posts and would befuddle many users. Unless we can limit the error message to only things that "matter", I don't think we should include it.


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 6:37:25 am PST #8807 of 10000
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t off to research Tidy config options re messages


DXMachina - Nov 16, 2004 6:38:53 am PST #8808 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I agree. Most of the HTML used in posts is pretty simple to debug once you realize there's an error somewhere.


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 7:05:36 am PST #8809 of 10000
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Just pointing out an implication: This moves the edits back to on-save. If the the work is done on-display, the board will be reading the post while the poster's think time is ticking by.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 7:19:31 am PST #8810 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Personally, I don't think any post is so time-sensitively-urgent that the user can't spend a few moments to fix formatting errors before the tome is posted. But I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.