Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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DebetEsse - May 01, 2007 6:10:55 am PDT #679 of 5028
Woe to the fucking wicked.

The problem, though Sylar likely doesn't know it, is that he can't directly change the past (thus Future Hiro having to work through others to save Claire). So, even if he came back to our present, he wouldn't be able to change much.

I love that this big pronouncement that so much of the beginning of the series was based on was based on false assumptions and, now, demonstrably wrong.

Do we think that Hiro and Ando have figured out that Future Nathan was Sylar? Because it seems like a lot rests on their ability to figure out what the frell is (or, rather, will be) actually going on.


Typo Boy - May 01, 2007 6:11:46 am PDT #680 of 5028
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But if they kill present!Sylar, doesn't future!Sylar cease to exist?

Unless Future!Sylar goes back before his timeline is erased (not neccesarily TO when his timeline is erased.) Note that he just threw away the presidency to go after Peter and Hiro. He knows about the time travel. Stopping any Hiro from going back in time took priority. Failing that, after he kills future!Peter, my guess is that he immediately heads backwords without waiting for his timeline to vanish.

I mean even if the timeline vanishes, future!Hiro went back to our time at least once. If that vanishes then the timeline never changes in the first place. So Future!Sylar can go back.


Tom Scola - May 01, 2007 6:13:10 am PDT #681 of 5028
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Jon: here you go.


Jessica - May 01, 2007 6:15:24 am PDT #682 of 5028
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

So Future!Sylar can go back.

Do we know that Sylar has Hiro's powers? Future!Hiro was shot, not Sylar-ed.


Jon B. - May 01, 2007 6:15:46 am PDT #683 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I mean even if the timeline vanishes, future!Hiro went back to our time at least once. If that vanishes then the timeline never changes in the first place. So Future!Sylar can go back.

Temporal mechanics is haaarrrd! t /Future!Barbie


Jon B. - May 01, 2007 6:18:51 am PDT #684 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Do we know that Sylar has Hiro's powers? Future!Hiro was shot, not Sylar-ed.

Gar's assuming Sylar gets all of Peter's powers.

Frankly, I don't think they're going to go there. It's too complicated.


Vortex - May 01, 2007 6:20:16 am PDT #685 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Note that he just threw away the presidency to go after Peter and Hiro. He knows about the time travel. Stopping any Hiro from going back in time took priority.

He went after Peter, not Hiro. He sent Matt after Hiro and went after Peter himself. He changed in the hallway, and I believe that Matt saw him. He was pissed about being blamed for the explosion and went after Peter for that.


Tom Scola - May 01, 2007 6:25:44 am PDT #686 of 5028
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

He was pissed about being blamed for the explosion and went after Peter for that.

Plus, if he does manage to absorb Peter's powers, he would be basically unstoppable. He wouldn't need to be President any more.


Vortex - May 01, 2007 6:29:23 am PDT #687 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

He wouldn't need to be President any more.

true, but it's hard to control an entire world by force. it would be easier to do what he could as president, and if that didn't work, take it by force and return to being president when you're done.


Topic!Cindy - May 01, 2007 6:41:08 am PDT #688 of 5028
What is even happening?

when Mohinder did the dramatic thing and cut the strings where Sylar killed Claire and the whole structure collapsed all I could think was how they lost all that organization, how would thhey ever figure out what was going on!

I know!! (And supports my "Mohinder is an idiot no matter how pretty he is" theory.)

Yes! I've resisted Mohinder-crit up until now (well, except for when he failed to kill Sylar), but I may have yelled at my TV when he snipped the strings. That was just stupid.

I mean even if the timeline vanishes, future!Hiro went back to our time at least once. If that vanishes then the timeline never changes in the first place. So Future!Sylar can go back.
I don't think that ought to be able vanish -- that Future!Sylar ought to be able to time travel, at least not right now. Present!Hiro's power sort of controlled the Five-Years-Hence stuff happened last night. By poofing back to the present he effectively stopped it all. It was no longer happening.