Gavin, ask yourself this question. What are you more afraid of, a giant murderous demon or me?

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Jon B. - May 01, 2007 6:15:46 am PDT #683 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I mean even if the timeline vanishes, future!Hiro went back to our time at least once. If that vanishes then the timeline never changes in the first place. So Future!Sylar can go back.

Temporal mechanics is haaarrrd! t /Future!Barbie


Jon B. - May 01, 2007 6:18:51 am PDT #684 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Do we know that Sylar has Hiro's powers? Future!Hiro was shot, not Sylar-ed.

Gar's assuming Sylar gets all of Peter's powers.

Frankly, I don't think they're going to go there. It's too complicated.


Vortex - May 01, 2007 6:20:16 am PDT #685 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Note that he just threw away the presidency to go after Peter and Hiro. He knows about the time travel. Stopping any Hiro from going back in time took priority.

He went after Peter, not Hiro. He sent Matt after Hiro and went after Peter himself. He changed in the hallway, and I believe that Matt saw him. He was pissed about being blamed for the explosion and went after Peter for that.


Tom Scola - May 01, 2007 6:25:44 am PDT #686 of 5028
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

He was pissed about being blamed for the explosion and went after Peter for that.

Plus, if he does manage to absorb Peter's powers, he would be basically unstoppable. He wouldn't need to be President any more.


Vortex - May 01, 2007 6:29:23 am PDT #687 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

He wouldn't need to be President any more.

true, but it's hard to control an entire world by force. it would be easier to do what he could as president, and if that didn't work, take it by force and return to being president when you're done.


Topic!Cindy - May 01, 2007 6:41:08 am PDT #688 of 5028
What is even happening?

when Mohinder did the dramatic thing and cut the strings where Sylar killed Claire and the whole structure collapsed all I could think was how they lost all that organization, how would thhey ever figure out what was going on!

I know!! (And supports my "Mohinder is an idiot no matter how pretty he is" theory.)

Yes! I've resisted Mohinder-crit up until now (well, except for when he failed to kill Sylar), but I may have yelled at my TV when he snipped the strings. That was just stupid.

I mean even if the timeline vanishes, future!Hiro went back to our time at least once. If that vanishes then the timeline never changes in the first place. So Future!Sylar can go back.
I don't think that ought to be able vanish -- that Future!Sylar ought to be able to time travel, at least not right now. Present!Hiro's power sort of controlled the Five-Years-Hence stuff happened last night. By poofing back to the present he effectively stopped it all. It was no longer happening.


Polter-Cow - May 01, 2007 8:02:28 am PDT #689 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The magical world of LJ has clarified something else: when we meet Future Hiro in the first scene, he's just gotten back from giving Peter the message. That's why he's surprised that Peter saved Claire (aaaaalso, it now makes sense, with the latest comic, that Hiro would go back to give a message to PETER, of all people), and yet the future was still the same.

So you guys are confusing me with the timeline.

I love that this big pronouncement that so much of the beginning of the series was based on was based on false assumptions and, now, demonstrably wrong.

It's not wrong, though, right? Originally, Sylar did explode, and it's because he had Claire's powers that he was able to do that and live (he wouldn't have done it suicidally). Clearly, saving the cheerleader hasn't saved the world YET, but it will.


DebetEsse - May 01, 2007 8:19:47 am PDT #690 of 5028
Woe to the fucking wicked.

We don't know that. It may have been Sylar, or it may have always been Peter--although I am more convinced by the "it used to be Sylar, but the timeline changed" POV


Polter-Cow - May 01, 2007 8:48:33 am PDT #691 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Right, because Peter got his dream after he saved the cheerleader.

Plus, the comic says so.


DCJensen - May 01, 2007 8:59:06 am PDT #692 of 5028
All is well that ends in pizza.

Wait, I think I have this: it's in the vision Peter had, where he's about to blow up and everybody is fleeing him, except for Nathan. He's walking up close, presumably to fly him away to the moon, and there's some line about their deep, abiding brotherly love.

OTHO? If Nathan does get to him early enough, he can fly him off away from the city, maybe over the Atlantic.

Nathan would not survive, but a very wounded and suffering Peter would return.

On still another hand, Peter could HIMSELF fly away when he feels he's going nuclear.

I'm still thinking Peter could absorb explosive guy's power, and Sylar in the original timeline also got to explosive guy. And it was too much for either Peter or Sylar to control.

Peter has the advantage over Sylar...he can fly.

Unless Sylar "Meets" Nathan before the conflagration.

ETA: Wrote this before I went out for a bit, forgot to post it, or my internet went down, or the router. My dog ate it.

"We named the dog Indiana."