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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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§ ita § - Nov 21, 2010 8:43:55 am PST #9064 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hotel Babylon! That's what I'm remembering him from.


beekaytee - Nov 25, 2010 5:10:12 pm PST #9065 of 9843
Compassionately intolerant

Misfits!!

I had very nearly given up on this one, but this last episode reeled me in hard.

Simon. No kidding. Could not have seen that one coming in a million years.

I have to confess that Nathan was my favorite character in the first few episodes of Season 1, but now, I'm okay with seeing far less of him. Last weeks lotion-motion nearly put me off my feed.

The new twist, however, will have me on the edge of my seat for the rest of the series.


Fiona - Nov 26, 2010 9:32:05 pm PST #9066 of 9843

Completely seconded, bonny. I rarely have the urge to rewatch an episode of anything as soon as it is finished but I did this time. I laughed a lot too.

I wonder if Future!HiroSimon has an agenda. I mean, other than getting into Alisha's pants.

It's all become very, very interesting.


beekaytee - Nov 27, 2010 9:54:20 am PST #9067 of 9843
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I wonder if Future!HiroSimon has an agenda.

I've been thinking the same. Like maybe it isn't really, truly Simon. But I hope that isn't it.

Rewatch? Four times so far for me!


beekaytee - Nov 27, 2010 4:47:06 pm PST #9068 of 9843
Compassionately intolerant

My current theory:

Aliesha dies as a result of something one of the 5 do in the future, or fame turns the 5 into ego monsters and she dies by someone else's . As a result, Simon has to come back to manipulate events...thus the clocks...to keep her alive . He as much as says so," I came back for you ".

I'm wondering who Simon's first time is with, if not her. He looked so sad when he said it was someone else .


Fiona - Nov 28, 2010 7:02:00 am PST #9069 of 9843

I'm wondering who....

I read him as more matter-of-fact and maybe a little bit wistful than sad, actually. But wow, the acting. How Iwan Rheon manages to be Simon and Future!Simon, who is still clearly Simon only with a steep learning curve behind him, is amazing .

As regards the time-travel, I think we're watching the completed cause-and-effect scenario. Future!Simon knows he has to do the things he does because Simon has seen him do them. This probably applies to Alisha falling in love with him as well (she falls for Simon because of how New-Improved-Future!Simon already is). So for now Future!Simon is doing the things he already knows he's done, hence the clocks. It gets interesting when he wants to actually change things to stop Alisha from dying. Whenever that happens.


le nubian - Nov 28, 2010 7:56:54 am PST #9070 of 9843
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Yes, I agree with above. I was really taken with this new series of events on "Misfits." There are 3 more episodes and a Xmas special (whatever that means).

I couldn't believe how graphic various scenes were in this episode. I mean, damn.

Oh, I absolutely cannot stand Nathan. At all. Too much.

Re: the major event

one thing that occurs to me is that Future Simon had the crew find Nathan. I wonder what happened in the original timeline because just by the mere fact of finding Nathan when they did, he already altered the future timeline significantly.


beekaytee - Nov 28, 2010 9:50:36 am PST #9071 of 9843
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in re: le n's speculation about the major event...

HMMM.

I'd forgotten that bit...mostly because I was not paying very close attention before the big reveal. Now, I'm scouring every scene for clues. Well Done Show!

I'm also loving the way the last episode was shot...with the depth of field fuzzing and such. I'll have to go back to review if that is a new technique.

Can I also say, I LOVED this week's 'real world kryptonite.' That was an awesome weapon, awesomely wielded.

That particular villain was a bit too closely hewn from the similar Heroes character that it tossed me out of the story for a minute. Still? Awesome.


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2010 9:58:25 am PST #9072 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Once you get past the tattoo part, it wasn't really similar to Heroes at all. In Heroes, it was never clear what Samuel was doing with the tattooing, but it wasn't the same as this guy, and Lydia was using it for precog only. The telepath and time travel and invisibility are much more similar--but then again, much more standard power tropes in general.


beekaytee - Nov 28, 2010 10:02:09 am PST #9073 of 9843
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I was thinking of it in terms of the manipulative, 'I'll make you love me and stay with me' aspect of...what was his name? Joseph?...the character.

In a lot of interviews that I spent way too much time watching both in English and Welsh yesterday, it seems the show is routinely described as a cross between Skins and Heroes...which never really occurred to me in the first season...not sure why I was so dense.