I wonder if Future!HiroSimon has an agenda.

I've been thinking the same. Like maybe it isn't really, truly Simon. But I hope that isn't it.

Rewatch? Four times so far for me!

My current theory:

Aliesha dies as a result of something one of the 5 do in the future, or fame turns the 5 into ego monsters and she dies by someone else's . As a result, Simon has to come back to manipulate events...thus the clocks...to keep her alive . He as much as says so," I came back for you ".

I'm wondering who Simon's first time is with, if not her. He looked so sad when he said it was someone else .

I'm wondering who....

I read him as more matter-of-fact and maybe a little bit wistful than sad, actually. But wow, the acting. How Iwan Rheon manages to be Simon and Future!Simon, who is still clearly Simon only with a steep learning curve behind him, is amazing .

As regards the time-travel, I think we're watching the completed cause-and-effect scenario. Future!Simon knows he has to do the things he does because Simon has seen him do them. This probably applies to Alisha falling in love with him as well (she falls for Simon because of how New-Improved-Future!Simon already is). So for now Future!Simon is doing the things he already knows he's done, hence the clocks. It gets interesting when he wants to actually change things to stop Alisha from dying. Whenever that happens.

Yes, I agree with above. I was really taken with this new series of events on "Misfits." There are 3 more episodes and a Xmas special (whatever that means).

I couldn't believe how graphic various scenes were in this episode. I mean, damn.

Oh, I absolutely cannot stand Nathan. At all. Too much.

Re: the major event

one thing that occurs to me is that Future Simon had the crew find Nathan. I wonder what happened in the original timeline because just by the mere fact of finding Nathan when they did, he already altered the future timeline significantly.

in re: le n's speculation about the major event...

HMMM.

I'd forgotten that bit...mostly because I was not paying very close attention before the big reveal. Now, I'm scouring every scene for clues. Well Done Show!

I'm also loving the way the last episode was shot...with the depth of field fuzzing and such. I'll have to go back to review if that is a new technique.

Can I also say, I LOVED this week's 'real world kryptonite.' That was an awesome weapon, awesomely wielded.

That particular villain was a bit too closely hewn from the similar Heroes character that it tossed me out of the story for a minute. Still? Awesome.

Once you get past the tattoo part, it wasn't really similar to Heroes at all. In Heroes, it was never clear what Samuel was doing with the tattooing, but it wasn't the same as this guy, and Lydia was using it for precog only. The telepath and time travel and invisibility are much more similar--but then again, much more standard power tropes in general.

I was thinking of it in terms of the manipulative, 'I'll make you love me and stay with me' aspect of...what was his name? Joseph?...the character.

In a lot of interviews that I spent way too much time watching both in English and Welsh yesterday, it seems the show is routinely described as a cross between Skins and Heroes...which never really occurred to me in the first season...not sure why I was so dense.

Well Done Show!

Oh, absolutely! I love game-changing twists like that, but it's not many manage to pull them off.

Don't know about the tattooist in Heroes (I gave up after S2) but the one in Misfits was called Vince.

FutureSimon not only helped the others find Nathan, he also rescued Nathan from the brainwashed teens at the end of S1. But that's what I meant with a closed cause-and-effect temporal loop. I think there isn't a future where Nathan is nabbed/left in his grave/Curtis suffocates etc. because FutureSimon knows exactly what he has to do, as Simon has already witnessed it. FS even says as much: "Everything that happens to him has already happened to me". Simon just has to get to the point where he realises his new role. I wonder how he managed the time-travel...?

Some random thoughts which occurred to me last night on rewatch:

All of the photographs in FutureSimon's base are of the others. Meaning that he took the pictures (which ties in with him filming everything last season).

I loved the Pulp Fiction moment with the epi-pen.

Nice of them to show Nathan's inept fumblings straight after FutureSimon's expert lovemaking. I know which one I'd prefer....

I'm probably going to have to sign out of this thread for a bit. I don't think I'm going to be able to watch tonight's episode of Misfits until Sunday at the earliest.

Have fun!

OMG. I am officially, completely and totally in love with Misfits. AGAIN, I did not see that coming.

Frankly, I'm a little nervous that it can't get any better than this!

I was simultaneously charmed and horrified that the actor playing the video game guy did an awesome job playing a video game guy !

I loved every beat of it.