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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Fiona - Nov 28, 2010 7:02:00 am PST #9069 of 9843

I'm wondering who....

I read him as more matter-of-fact and maybe a little bit wistful than sad, actually. But wow, the acting. How Iwan Rheon manages to be Simon and Future!Simon, who is still clearly Simon only with a steep learning curve behind him, is amazing .

As regards the time-travel, I think we're watching the completed cause-and-effect scenario. Future!Simon knows he has to do the things he does because Simon has seen him do them. This probably applies to Alisha falling in love with him as well (she falls for Simon because of how New-Improved-Future!Simon already is). So for now Future!Simon is doing the things he already knows he's done, hence the clocks. It gets interesting when he wants to actually change things to stop Alisha from dying. Whenever that happens.


le nubian - Nov 28, 2010 7:56:54 am PST #9070 of 9843
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Yes, I agree with above. I was really taken with this new series of events on "Misfits." There are 3 more episodes and a Xmas special (whatever that means).

I couldn't believe how graphic various scenes were in this episode. I mean, damn.

Oh, I absolutely cannot stand Nathan. At all. Too much.

Re: the major event

one thing that occurs to me is that Future Simon had the crew find Nathan. I wonder what happened in the original timeline because just by the mere fact of finding Nathan when they did, he already altered the future timeline significantly.


beekaytee - Nov 28, 2010 9:50:36 am PST #9071 of 9843
Compassionately intolerant

in re: le n's speculation about the major event...

HMMM.

I'd forgotten that bit...mostly because I was not paying very close attention before the big reveal. Now, I'm scouring every scene for clues. Well Done Show!

I'm also loving the way the last episode was shot...with the depth of field fuzzing and such. I'll have to go back to review if that is a new technique.

Can I also say, I LOVED this week's 'real world kryptonite.' That was an awesome weapon, awesomely wielded.

That particular villain was a bit too closely hewn from the similar Heroes character that it tossed me out of the story for a minute. Still? Awesome.


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2010 9:58:25 am PST #9072 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Once you get past the tattoo part, it wasn't really similar to Heroes at all. In Heroes, it was never clear what Samuel was doing with the tattooing, but it wasn't the same as this guy, and Lydia was using it for precog only. The telepath and time travel and invisibility are much more similar--but then again, much more standard power tropes in general.


beekaytee - Nov 28, 2010 10:02:09 am PST #9073 of 9843
Compassionately intolerant

I was thinking of it in terms of the manipulative, 'I'll make you love me and stay with me' aspect of...what was his name? Joseph?...the character.

In a lot of interviews that I spent way too much time watching both in English and Welsh yesterday, it seems the show is routinely described as a cross between Skins and Heroes...which never really occurred to me in the first season...not sure why I was so dense.


Fiona - Nov 28, 2010 10:03:23 pm PST #9074 of 9843

Well Done Show!

Oh, absolutely! I love game-changing twists like that, but it's not many manage to pull them off.

Don't know about the tattooist in Heroes (I gave up after S2) but the one in Misfits was called Vince.

FutureSimon not only helped the others find Nathan, he also rescued Nathan from the brainwashed teens at the end of S1. But that's what I meant with a closed cause-and-effect temporal loop. I think there isn't a future where Nathan is nabbed/left in his grave/Curtis suffocates etc. because FutureSimon knows exactly what he has to do, as Simon has already witnessed it. FS even says as much: "Everything that happens to him has already happened to me". Simon just has to get to the point where he realises his new role. I wonder how he managed the time-travel...?

Some random thoughts which occurred to me last night on rewatch:

All of the photographs in FutureSimon's base are of the others. Meaning that he took the pictures (which ties in with him filming everything last season).

I loved the Pulp Fiction moment with the epi-pen.

Nice of them to show Nathan's inept fumblings straight after FutureSimon's expert lovemaking. I know which one I'd prefer....


Fiona - Dec 02, 2010 7:50:10 am PST #9075 of 9843

I'm probably going to have to sign out of this thread for a bit. I don't think I'm going to be able to watch tonight's episode of Misfits until Sunday at the earliest.

Have fun!


beekaytee - Dec 02, 2010 5:31:20 pm PST #9076 of 9843
Compassionately intolerant

OMG. I am officially, completely and totally in love with Misfits. AGAIN, I did not see that coming.

Frankly, I'm a little nervous that it can't get any better than this!

I was simultaneously charmed and horrified that the actor playing the video game guy did an awesome job playing a video game guy !

I loved every beat of it.


Fiona - Dec 03, 2010 3:25:50 am PST #9077 of 9843

Well, I caved and watched it today when I should have been working. Bad show!

So, farewell then, FutureSimon, we hardly knew you. Though in fairness it would possibly have been hard to sustain over many more episodes. I don't envy Alisha, though, living with that knowledge through the whole of their relationship .

I agree, bonny, VideoGameGuy was awesome .


§ ita § - Dec 03, 2010 5:22:40 pm PST #9078 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fucking A, that was marvellous.