Inara: Mal, this isn't the ancient sea. You don't have to go down with your ship. Mal: She ain't going down. She ain't going anywhere.

'Out Of Gas'


Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

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Lilty Cash - Jul 26, 2005 9:36:47 am PDT #6144 of 10002
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

My favorite death scene ever was Samuel L. Jackson in Deep Blue Sea

Oh, hell yes. I think there may have even been applause in my theater. It was just that good.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2005 9:48:21 am PDT #6145 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Michael Bay is pissed The Island is flopping.

"It could be the subject matter, the lack of stars," he said. "I'm not blaming the whole thing on the marketers."

The opening for the $124-million film means "The Island" grossed just 10% of its production budget — placing it ahead of "Cinderella Man" and "Kingdom of Heaven" as the most expensive dud of the summer so far.


Calli - Jul 26, 2005 9:50:16 am PDT #6146 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

"It could be the subject matter, the lack of stars," he said.

Bwhuh?

Ewan McGregor, Scarlett Johansson, Djimon Hounsou, and Sean Bean aren't stars?


Volans - Jul 26, 2005 9:50:41 am PDT #6147 of 10002
move out and draw fire

"It could be the subject matter, the lack of stars," he said. "I'm not blaming the whole thing on the marketers."

Huh? It's got stars. Oh, maybe he meant to say "the lack of writers."


DavidS - Jul 26, 2005 9:53:37 am PDT #6148 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ewan McGregor, Scarlett Johansson, Djimon Hounsou, and Sean Bean aren't stars?

Not in the Hollywood sense. A star is somebody who can open a movie - that is, draw a large audience based on the actor, not the character or the movie. There are only four or five stars in Hollywood by this definition.


Calli - Jul 26, 2005 9:55:09 am PDT #6149 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Hmmm. I've gone to see movies based entirely on the fact that Ewan McGregor was in them. But then I != Hollywood.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2005 10:14:22 am PDT #6150 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are only four or five stars in Hollywood by this definition.

Do you think Michael Bay shares this definition? Because his movies, by said lights, have often been star free. Yet this is his first bomb.


Jesse - Jul 26, 2005 10:16:31 am PDT #6151 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You've got to blame the marketers, don't you? I haven't seen nearly as many ads -- and the ones I have haven't caused the same sort of "guh" reaction -- as for, say, Mr & Mrs. Smith.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2005 10:17:36 am PDT #6152 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the marketing was lousy too. I didn't start seeing ads until pretty close to the release date, and they were frantic and hard to follow/looked like the whole plot.


Jesse - Jul 26, 2005 10:18:40 am PDT #6153 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I have like no impression of the movie from the ads.