You've got to blame the marketers, don't you? I haven't seen nearly as many ads -- and the ones I have haven't caused the same sort of "guh" reaction -- as for, say, Mr & Mrs. Smith.
Willow: Something evil-crashed to earth in this. Then it broke out and slithered away to do badness.
Giles: Well, in all fairness, we don't really know about the "slithered" part. Anya: No, no, I'm sure it frisked about like a fluffy lamb.
'Never Leave Me'
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Jesse - Jul 26, 2005 10:16:31 am PDT #6151 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
§ ita § - Jul 26, 2005 10:17:36 am PDT #6152 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think the marketing was lousy too. I didn't start seeing ads until pretty close to the release date, and they were frantic and hard to follow/looked like the whole plot.
Jesse - Jul 26, 2005 10:18:40 am PDT #6153 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I have like no impression of the movie from the ads.
§ ita § - Jul 26, 2005 10:20:17 am PDT #6154 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
They play clones! Of people! They're in danger! Djimon Hounsou is scary! Run! Explosion! Explosion!
The Island doesn't exist.
They needed more sex.
Tom Scola - Jul 26, 2005 10:21:58 am PDT #6155 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
So, apparently, for a movie to be marketable, it either has to have a big-name star, or it has to make sense.
Jesse - Jul 26, 2005 10:22:26 am PDT #6156 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
The impression I got from Ewan on Leno a hundred years ago: They play clones! Of people! They have sex! Things go BOOM!
Polter-Cow - Jul 26, 2005 10:23:48 am PDT #6157 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Do sex and explosions mean nothing to the American moviegoing audience these days? God, nobody has any standards.
§ ita § - Jul 26, 2005 10:25:26 am PDT #6158 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think the sex explosion balance was tipped. I think there was only the one sex scene in the trailer I saw (if that) and way more explosions.
Ewan and Scarlett -- aren't they better known for sexy than action?
Jesse - Jul 26, 2005 10:30:23 am PDT #6159 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Oh right, I forgot my whole point: I learned as much from the one interview as from the whole marketing campaign, and it was more compelling than what I've seen since.
Nutty - Jul 26, 2005 10:32:42 am PDT #6160 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I learned more about this movie from you all than from ads. I came away from the ads wondering, "Isn't that a really expensive remake of Logan's Run?" and you all said, "Yep."
I stopped seeing Michael Bay movies after I realized I am not allowed to kill him.